with the fishes. 

fish is one of most borring Quake monsters!!!

no i will not! 

Now the only thing to worry about is VIS being stuck at 99.99% for three fucking days. :( 

ten bucks says vis crashed 

you seem like you could do with some herbal tea or a spa day or something. And some blood pressure meds. 

15 euros... 

There are slow portals like that. I've had a two-days one earlier in the process. The map isn't really a prime example of good construction, at least in terms of vis requirements. 

starbuck tea? beer or wine i whould like more!!!

let�s all give hands and make Quake maps!!!

:)

hehe

p.s-> this is General Abuse thread please let us people have a litle fun!!! 

#terrafusion if you want to talk about crap. eh. 

About Tyrquake on Linux, it really badly hangs the X server. And that makes me think that this is a pretty bad flaw in the engine(s), not the map.

Fair point, but they (Joe, Tyr) run most other maps. If a map fails in Joequake and Tyrquake (non-obscure engines) under Linux (non-obscure OS), it's due to insufficient playtesting. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Oh, Software, well let's always ask for more more more! ;)

Doesn't apply in this case. Apart from that, you misinterpreted what I wrote. I had taken extra care to not make it sound like a demand or sth like that. You're normally a nice, intelligent person, but this (undeserved) bashery wasn't necessary.

-> ;-)

Now for the general part.

Sorry for reporting my findings (you'll have to look very hard at my original post to find a DEMAND). Sorry for getting motion sickness AND TALKING ABOUT IT. Sorry for not behaving as expected (pressing the button, posting rave review), sorry for using the software renderer like a retard AND ADMITTING IT. At least I have some BALLS.

Sorry for spoiling you guys' little party. Go to #tf and show each other porn. 

"Fair point, but they (Joe, Tyr) run most other maps. If a map fails in Joequake and Tyrquake (non-obscure engines) under Linux (non-obscure OS), it's due to insufficient playtesting. Sorry, but that's the truth. "

In my defense, I was apathetic. It works in Fitz. *shrug* 

Down with that bizzle, homizzle. All about the chillage. Anything with camomile in apparently soothes the soul. Well into white tea with vanilla though. 

Willem's map works with the Windows versions of both engines. And there also was that one situation in which your Tyrquake-linux didn't like the push in adrlass2, whereas it worked with mine (iirc). So maybe there's something wrong with these particular (versions of the two) engines under Linux. 

Don't overreact! If I offended you think about if it means anything to you and then do the right thing = think "idiot" and move on. Sorry.

I fully agree that mappers "should" test their maps on a multitude of engines, simply for the reason that the people out there like to play on engines outside the func_focus (tenebrae, vengeance, QMB).

BUT the map works in Winquake which (in my opinion) is the "green card".

I was a bit bitter about the quasi non-existant error handling in engines. 

I fully agree that mappers "should" test their maps on a multitude of engines, simply for the reason that the people out there like to play on engines outside the func_focus (tenebrae, vengeance, QMB).

I disagree: I will not waste my time checking if every corners of my maps will work on all engines..

BUT the map works in Winquake which (in my opinion) is the "green card".

And I disagree again: the green card is provided by FitzQuake !

though.... 

"I disagree: I will not waste my time checking if every corners of my maps will work on all engines.. "

I'll also add that if the maps work in Fitz but doesn't work in some other engine ... what on earth am I supposed to do about it? I'm clearly coloring inside the lines if it loads in Fitz so, really, my job is done.

Anyone disagreeing is hereby granted a full refund for what they paid for my level. 

Please:

1/ Add correct information in the .txt file
2/ You damned mother fuckers should read these fucking readme before complaining!!

:P 

standard quake 

GLQuake. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1085354/Mysterious-glowing-aurora-Saturn-confounds-scientists.html 

Sat turns into Squad










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is free to do what he wants to do.

You can make maps however you want, you can code engines like whatever you want.

I'm not asking for a refund.

But you got to take it when someone calls you lazy.

Also, why the attitude towards the software renderer. Face it, GLQuake looks like shit. You want some screenies to prove that?

I'll take software over something like Proquake any day. Of course Darkplaces etc. are another matter because they have better lighting. You know this is the truth, there are some areas where software is decidedly better, fucking admit it already.

OK Spirit, I overreacted. There. ;-)

Goes to show you how much I feel my back is against the wall. :-( 

Test your maps in the most common engines (vanilla Winquake, Glquake as lowest denominator; DP for Murphy's law) is definitely not a waste of time. Fitzquake is not the Green Card as it's still more forgiving on certain things than other engines (e2m2 crash comes to mind, possibly maxedict-related issues too). The new version will make this even more problematic. 

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/18251 

Testing is fine but I'm not installing Linux to make sure that 2 extra people can play my level. If it works in software Quake, suck it up. :)