to a bug in info_command in Quoth; there should always be a newline "\n" at the end of the string, otherwise the engine might not execute the command properly.

The Quoth doc doesn't include this information. 

I want to do a coop map. It would be nice if there was a way to broadcast a message to all players (like "the gate is open"). The closest thing I could find is ClientDisconnect(), but that still bprints "left the game." after the message that I put in .netname. Is there some way to hide that 2nd message? I tried flooding it off the screen but it didn't work. It just moves my message up on the console. 

 

sprint() ? 

Umm... bprint(), sorry 

Bprint is broadcast print, no? 

I don't know that this one is possible. What you'd really want is a function that has the .netname bit printed *after* the rest of the text, so then you can newline all the previous lines away. However, assuming there are none in the monster files, the only such examples are in the clientobituaries, and only in the messages for client vs client deaths(for example: telefragging). So I don't think there's a way to hack those in. 

That's about what I figured. Just wanted to check with an expert. 

Map is a group of some of the tricks found here and other places. I use it as a way to remember those info_notnull tricks. Please give it a look
and email if I missed something good.

http://www.mediamax.com/mechtech1001/Hosted/maps/progref.rar 

:D 

Maybe it is my winrar, but I get a corrupted file. 

Changed format to zip

http://www.mediamax.com/mechtech1001/Hosted/maps/progref.zip 

That download seems unbelievably slow, can you put it on shub-hub or something? It stalls at 1% here repeatedly. 

Sorry for that crappy (free) host

http://shub-hub.com/files/maps_singleplayer/progref.zip 

I dont know how usefull it will be, the toggleble trigger_multiple could be a usefull reference. Also the pentegram of lightning - I had a look at the map file in notepad, and it didnt really make sense to me how you managed to get all of the correct angles for each lightning bolt, but I'll have a look at it later again!!

Cheers 

Good idea. Comments:

- can you make all doors wait -1 or remove them?
- can you use a uniform texture theme?
- func_train message is misplaced
- could you make the messages more descriptive?
- perhaps use floor switches, those posts are a bit in the way.
- perhaps add breakables?
- add Than's moving floor gun turrets?
- add glass?
- make trigger_multiple and triggered lights more obvious?
- add monsters dropping guns, or alternate ammo

Quoth demystifies many of those things, luckily, like respawning items, custom traps, and hordespawn. Plus more nice things. No moving water or statues though. 

I've just thought of a trick that might not work, as I haven't been able to test it. It also requires Quake 1.07 (I think all custom engines these days are derived from 1.08)

If you set the "gravity" field on an entity, the effects of gravity on it change. 1 means normal, 2 means doubled, etc... 0 is taken to mean 1, otherwise everything would not be affected by gravity by default.

So what can be done with this? Well, in theory, any monster that jumps can be made to jump further (or not as far). Unless you're using trigger_monsterjump, which is configureable by the mapper already, then the use is really limited to fiends. Giving them a gravity setting of about 1.2 may help to make them more effective in indoor areas, by making them hit the ceiling less.

I'd be interested to know if this actually works... 

You can set multiple teleport triggers on each monster entity, and randomize by using Fitzgibbon's patented shooter trigger randomizer, or make the teleporters trigger at different locations depending upon the route the player decides to take. (HeadThump replying to Ankh in another thread)

Can anyone explain this one for me? 

Give me a few minutes and I'll construct a simple map that illustrates
the second method, the first method with the logic gates is a bit more complicated and I wanted to make a fairly playable map to illustrate it. 

http://mortisville.quakedev.com/tele.zip

This example shows how to place teleporters for a creature to have alternative routes depending on the route a player takes. The creature here is hidden inside the center block, and all the relevant entities are close by that area. 

http://mortisville.quakedev.com/tele2.zip

I added a crude logic gate to the original map that will give one of four results, two telefraged creatures, one telefrag and one creature, or two more creatures in addition to mr tough stuff from the first demonstration.

It isn't difficult to refine this technique to suit your needs. Look in the extra box room to see how it is done. 

Is this safe to use as a door opening trigger? I know that doors will create their own triggers, but it's too large for my purposes... 

While this trick does work, it's not really that necessary. Using one of the equations of motion:

v*v = u*u + 2*a*s

and rearranging for s (distance)

s = (v*v - u*u) / (2*a)

then plugging in the relevant numbers: u (start velocity) = 250 (we are only concerned with the vertical here); v (end velocity) = 0 (when you reach the peak of the jump); a (acceleration) = 800 (due to gravity); and you get

s = -39.0625

Now add the height of a fiend (88), and see that it will miss a 128-high ceiling by just less than 1 unit. Except for 2 small problems. Firstly, the qc adds 1 to the z component of the fiend's origin juszt before it jumps (so it will brush the ceiling very slightly), and secondly, it's possible for v_forward (the direction that fiend will jump in) to have a z component (if the player jumps at the right moment).

Still, it's something more to play wih... 

It should work as long as you don't want a message for the player on that trigger. Just remember that firing nails through the trigger will also op - not just monsters. 

But I decided that it's not worth spending the brushes on in this map, so I'll save it for next time...