#1407 lunaran > that's not me! My use of language is much poor than that balsh! The stupid nonsense I'm supposed to use there should make you think why there aren't that much misspells...sorry...nicked.

#14709 headthump > I may be food for psygoligists...reason I never consult one.
You're not a buthead, I just have enormous guilts understanding you americans (?!).

#14710 lurker > you're right! lol for me and everyone with an creative mind and how to get along with it. I establish the link to virtual pizza's!

#14712 necros > still thanks for your qc help with my rat model, I'm much further now!

#14713 neg!ke > it is not so much as philosopy,
(Plato's dialogs are terrific!) as well that I hate numbers and pronounciation marks in reading text.

#14714 lunaran > part of me is crazy, but youre nick is lune-a-ran.

#141715 bear > thanks, you may now go on watching the radiotube for more of edison's treasures... at least you could have givven me a vote.

#14714 rj > so again, that's not me, but you can use my babbelfish for text generators.

#14717 madfox > cool down, man. take my easytune I lately made...
http://members.home.nl/gimli/SHOTS03.MID
set speaker low. 

to a hilarious debate!

Madfox, you could have trailed a few more breadcrumbs, it was just getting interesting! :) 

I still think he's a computer! 

in doom3, the files in the glprogs folder (with the *.vfp extension)... are those shaders like cg or hlsl? 

Did you write "Python Programming on Win32"? 

As Bobby Fischer once said, 'I don't believe in psychology, I believe in good moves.'

But then again, he was certifiably nuts. 

who ran luna?

roughly it takes 3years and 3 months to walk to the moon at an average speed of 8km/houre.

still it won't stop the average turnspeed of earth, which is 15meters/second when standing still. 

No, that was Mark Hammond. 

assembly. cg and hlsl both get compiled into asm vertex/fragment progs. 

for the info :) 

I tinkered with the doom lighting vfp and found that light color is supplied as a vec4, with alpha, and alpha isn't regarded at all. So I tinkered more and turned shaderparm3 on lights (alpha) into a diffuse-ness measure that scales/biases the shading dot product to 'fill' lighting on surfaces a bit more. It looks really sweem using doom3's original sharp lighting for a keylight, and this fuzzy light for a bounced fill. 

screens or it didn't happen 

I guess it didn't happen 

I found this but it doesn't show it off too well

http://www.lunaran.com/pics/byz_brighthall1.jpg 

Really neat, Lun. 

Lun created an alternative to fullbright.

Weekend well spent. 

Zwiffle.

I'd be interested what you did though, care to post the shader? 

I carried it a little further, and started putting ambient occlusion maps in the alpha of the diffuse (and if I wanted an alphamasked texture I'd use alpha in the normal map or somwot instead), and multiplying that into the result by an inverse proportion, so that the direct light looks direct and the diffuse light looks diffuse, and halfway values look good too.

http://www.lunaran.com/files/byz_shadiness.pk4 [12 mega-bytes]

Including some of those textures in the pak. I had planned on doing the whole ship with just a couple of big utility textures so I could have brushwork all over that would share a material and thus batch really well, so I wouldn't have to be so stingy with lights. Then there were dirty engineering versions and clean upper-level versions to unify the look of the ship and ... ahh, Byzantine. I wish I knew how to finish you. 

I dont understand a thing you just said, but it sounds like it will melt eyes... ;) 

(shame) 

But supertrim and superpanels are missing their localmaps? 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2XCYgrKFWC4&feature=related possibly a slight bit nws 

are they?

Oh, damn, I know what I did. I'll update the file when I get home.

also, scampie figured out the correct solution to our game in #tf from earlier: the United Nations International Bureau of Really Oversized Weapons. 

Do you know UT3 (pc) supports voice chat? Me and the guys have been using vent, but it's kinda annoying. 

Just throwing it out there, anyone ever make a Quake mod in isotropic perspective for a Quake tactics kind of game?