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Teaching Old Progs.dat New Tricks.
You know about the info_notnull explosion hack. You know about making monsters drop weapons or alternate ammo using the .weapon and .ammo_whatever hacks. You know about making items float in the air by spawning them on a temporary platform. Let's have a thread where we talk about new ways to use existing behavior and get novel gameplay. If you're a "retired" mapper, this is a great time to do some armchair level design and suggest ideas you'll never have a chance to use yourself.
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Oh Yeah.. 
.. sounds like when you converted your md3 to mdl, it was able to find the skin (treating it as an external skin) because mdl models aren't as fussy about paths. 
Thanks Omus 
It's been a while since I visited my little project, but I think I'll see if that possibilaty is the case.

I checked the paths at the time to see if they matched up, but I may have only done so relative to the mod path and not the models internal structure, thus missing a crucial subdirectory. 
I Guess... 
the thing I'm worried about is that "replacing a texture that exists in the mdl" might be a feature of a number of engines, but it seems completely up to chance whether each implementation happens to work even when the texture isn't in the mdl file.

So you could try it, and it could work in some engines, but who knows which ones. 
Omus 
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If you have new skins you to include external files for the custom model right? In that case you might as well create a custom progs and run it as a mod.
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Yeah, but the thread theme is about making new stuff without new progs.dat, so I believe it's still on-topic :). 
Player Weapon Damage 
Can I increase it with superdamagefinished as for monsters? If so how - because it'll need to be set for coop as well. I'm guessing this will be more difficult than a standard monster hack . . .

The idea is to boost the players close combat attack to make it a viable alternative to the SSG and not just the SG. And make it a choice against tougher creatures, since I've omitted knights from my pack.

I reckon about the same damage as a rocket, so two hits would kill and ogre, four a shalrath - though I'd have to playtest alot so as not to unbalence the game. 
Not Without Modifying The QC 
Also, quad wwould affect all weapons, not just the axe. 
Ah Well 
It was just a thought, maybe for the next time. It�d also affect alot of things, eg. it�d be easy to lose ammo backpack pickups by gibbing too many monsters. 
Question 
Any way to use stuffcmd in a map ent?? 
Mechtech 
it is possible in Quoth Pack. Just use info_command or trigger_command, and and your command in the message field. Maybe you should ask Kell or necros for further details. 
Which Brings Me 
to a bug in info_command in Quoth; there should always be a newline "\n" at the end of the string, otherwise the engine might not execute the command properly.

The Quoth doc doesn't include this information. 
Bprint? 
I want to do a coop map. It would be nice if there was a way to broadcast a message to all players (like "the gate is open"). The closest thing I could find is ClientDisconnect(), but that still bprints "left the game." after the message that I put in .netname. Is there some way to hide that 2nd message? I tried flooding it off the screen but it didn't work. It just moves my message up on the console. 
Sorry. I Meant ClientConnect() 
 
 
sprint() ? 
 
Umm... bprint(), sorry 
Not Sure What You're Asking, Lardarse 
Bprint is broadcast print, no? 
Not An Easy One 
I don't know that this one is possible. What you'd really want is a function that has the .netname bit printed *after* the rest of the text, so then you can newline all the previous lines away. However, assuming there are none in the monster files, the only such examples are in the clientobituaries, and only in the messages for client vs client deaths(for example: telefragging). So I don't think there's a way to hack those in. 
Thanks, Preach 
That's about what I figured. Just wanted to check with an expert. 
Progref 
Map is a group of some of the tricks found here and other places. I use it as a way to remember those info_notnull tricks. Please give it a look
and email if I missed something good.

http://www.mediamax.com/mechtech1001/Hosted/maps/progref.rar 
Sounds Cool - Will Check Out L8R 
:D 
Mechtech 
Maybe it is my winrar, but I get a corrupted file. 
Zip Format 
Mechtech 
That download seems unbelievably slow, can you put it on shub-hub or something? It stalls at 1% here repeatedly. 
Last Try 
Thats Mad!! 
I dont know how usefull it will be, the toggleble trigger_multiple could be a usefull reference. Also the pentegram of lightning - I had a look at the map file in notepad, and it didnt really make sense to me how you managed to get all of the correct angles for each lightning bolt, but I'll have a look at it later again!!

Cheers 
Mechtech 
Good idea. Comments:

- can you make all doors wait -1 or remove them?
- can you use a uniform texture theme?
- func_train message is misplaced
- could you make the messages more descriptive?
- perhaps use floor switches, those posts are a bit in the way.
- perhaps add breakables?
- add Than's moving floor gun turrets?
- add glass?
- make trigger_multiple and triggered lights more obvious?
- add monsters dropping guns, or alternate ammo

Quoth demystifies many of those things, luckily, like respawning items, custom traps, and hordespawn. Plus more nice things. No moving water or statues though. 
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