What? Sorry, my face was pressed into an oiled up set of money tits and I couldn't hear your, I'm sure, incredibly awesome insights about the games industry. 

"FUCK!"

Well, now we're talking. 

which usually means you don't get involved with the subjects, but you mister 208 decided to jump right in.

there's a reason why The Savage hung himself at the end of Brave New World, I'd stop before it gets that far [metaphorically of course].

I'm out of this completely now, maybe ill actually release a map someday :/ 

HAH! ok now I'm out 

Really, this is all time that could be used creating original maps. 

Porting ones from other games. 

"Random Flame War, Just for Kicks!" 

Bingo bongo. 

Can't everyone please stop giving this sad little mama's boy the attention he craves for? 

This "sad little momma's boy" judged your latest map to be one of the best in the latest Q2C mapping contest, and he's had your back in the past when people thought your port of your own map from q2w wasn't exactly what "brand new map" meant in previous contest's rules.

You'll notice that I never once called someone's work fugly, and made jokes about them.

Perhaps you should not call people names when can't manage to correctly use the english language to do so.

to all:

I don't need your attention, and I post on other forums and boards regularly without some mythical need for attention being ascribed to me.

This one caught my attention in recent days.

Since here, I've been replying to actual questions, intended insults, and inquiries as opposed to making stupid halfassed trolling attempts like the majority of posters in this thread.

We can go back to this little internet backwater getting pretty much no play, and you guys circle jerking, but I'd rather you got some action around here.

Judging by the popularity of this lil thread, I'm the best thing that's happened here in a long time. 

"We can go back to this little internet backwater getting pretty much no play, and you guys circle jerking, but I'd rather you got some action around here. "

Well, there weren't any current flame wars before you showed up so I guess ... thanks?

"Perhaps you should not call people names when can't manage to correctly use the english language to do so."

+'you'
'English'

But it's good that you're trying.

"Judging by the popularity of this lil thread, I'm the best thing that's happened here in a long time."

No, not attention whoring in any way. Crowd approval certainly doesn't factor into your self esteem, no sir. 

^

this would be what I mean by shitty trolling attempt from one of the regs here.

Blame who you will, but I'm not the one fanning the flames repeatedly.

I am engaging in discourse. This jackass is just flaming and trolling. 

Well, I reckon it's about time for you big city folks to head on home and leave us country bumpkins to our little backwater message board, right? Or have you not had enough attention yet? 

is the only thing I'm getting out of this.

..and boy is it tasty 

ya know, raping the shooter genre some more with your shitty excuse for a 3rd person action game so you can make money hats and act like a cunt to randoms on the net in your free time... 

There are two guys named Spirit in the Quake community. Do not go personal against the one you have in mind. It would hit the wrong guy. 

So you're just a random mouthy quake modder, not the "spirit" that's actually been putting out quake maps recently?

Good to know.

What have you done for quake? I ask, because the other guy, who doesn't act like a twit, seems to be more deserving of the alias than someone who makes it look bad. 

He hosts half the current Q1 mappers and repository that he's carefully compiled of every release for the last 12 years. What do you do again?

Oh, and in regard to Well, there weren't any current flame wars before you showed up so I guess ... thanks?, I've been away for a bit, was about to start one and all... :(


Can't everyone please stop giving this sad little mama's boy the attention he craves for? 

so you're saying like 4 people right? 

Witty. Actually it's 7.

Anyway, I thought you were replying to actual questions, intended insults, and inquiries? I'm fairly sure I asked what you'd done in terms of game design (or general life achievement frankly). Answer the actual question please, and in more than vagueries about umpteen maps/models/code, actual links please.

And for someone who isn't seeking attention, you sure are checking this page a lot to see if anyone has responded to your inane postings. 3 minutes for that last one, that's almost as quick as sex lasts for you. 

Since you asked soooo nicely, here are some random screenies of some quick little maps I made back when I wasn't workin so much..

They aren't much but they're quite playable, have good flow, and they're in regular use on servers (including a few that I run) for a game that people actually still play.

[url]http://img151.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=skinnedarmor.jpg[/url]

The first one is a set of skins I made for the stock q2 armor models a couple months back. 

last one didn't like the forum...


http://img151.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=skinnedarmor.jpg 

I've made some set pieces, prefabs, and brush models for others to use in their maps for a couple different games.

On occasion I'll make HUD reskins for certain shooters including q2 and warsow, and I put together some custom .pak files with high res texture replacements, model reskins, game sound replacements, and other little bits and bobs.

I'm just getting into mapping for ETQW even tho the official ones are really the only ones that get play, and if QL customs weren't such an iffy prospect, I'd be lookin at making stuff for that too.


I keep myself busy with work, a reasonably sane social life, outdoor hobbies and indoor hobbies, a girlfriend of 6 years now, and a home that eats the rest of my time keeping it up.

Even with all that, I stay on top of developments in the Quake franchise and contributing to it's communities, and I've never once heard of you. 

Have you decided who'll play you in the upcoming biopic 208.57.237.156?

OH MY GOD I HOPE IT'S CHRISTIAN BALE. AND SCARLETT JOHANSEN CAN BE YOUR GIRLFRIEND OF SIX YEARS NOW!1 I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW RIDLEY SCOTT DIRECTS THAT ONE BIT OF THAT ONE FLAME WAR YOU WERE IN! OH MY GOD I'M GIDDY I NEED TO SIT DOWN. 

If someone wanted to port one of my maps over to another game, I would be flattered, but ultimately I would appreciate it if he or she asked my permission first. Although my recent maps are under the GPL, it just seems polite to ask. For maps from large companies, or even small companies, it's generally not so easy as dropping an email to your friendly neighborhood mapper and asking permission. If they reply, they're probably going to say no, regardless of personal perspective. This could be for any number of reasons, not least of which is that whoever you emailed probably does not have sole authority to grant such a request, and trying to get all parties involved to come to an agreement would take too much effort. In short, the cost is greater than the payoff.

It's pretty rare, and it has possibly never happened, for a mapper to receive a cease-and-desist simply for porting a map and a few textures. Since the game developers and publishers have never told anyone to stop, I think many people take that to mean the copyright holders are implicitly giving permission to proceed. (I think this is mostly a subconscious assumption instead of a conscious decision on the part of us the mappers.)

The following is what was once explained to me, and, considering I am not an expert on anything worth caring about, I have no (convenient) way to confirm its validity. If a copyright holder were to know of someone creating an illegal derivative work from their original work, but the copyright holder did not prosecute, then they would not have a sufficiently strong case to prosecute someone else later who was violating their copyright. The ramifications are that a copyright holder is not able to selectively prosecute persons that they know to be violating their copyright--it's all or nothing. This may be why Fox is so zealous that they have their own verb, and why id software tends to be a little more don't-ask-don't-tell. Of course, this is all second- or third-hand information, and mosty speculation...

OTH, TLDR kthxbai.