#14336 posted by JneeraZ on 2008/06/02 01:28:30
Wonder why? Answer: Steam.
Well...
#14337 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/02 01:38:03
I think there's loads of PC's everywhere! Facebook etc means that loads of people want PC's, they've become mre accessible to the public lately because more and more "non-digitally-minded" socialites are buying into the idea of "modern communication", everyone being "groomed" into this idea along with the growth of the mobile cell-phone market. More and more people have cable... Digital cameras, easily sending media to freinds in a much more free-hand way... These are the reasons that PC's are being sold more and more! As for PC-Gaming, well people want it all! They buy consoles to go nicely with their flat-screen TV's, saving them the need to configure anything at their leisure! PC's are the tools used to make modern games, but people want to be able to play these games on their consoles.
But...
There will always be a minority of people who don't buy consoles, but whom still have a platform to play games - their PC! So surely manufacturers will continue shipping titles to the PC, simple as to maximise their potential market..... ?
#14338 posted by Lunaran on 2008/06/02 03:26:17
There will always be a minority of people who don't buy consoles, but whom still have a platform to play games - their PC!
This is not a minority. This is the vast, vast majority.
This is why developers that target people who want to play games on computers that aren't made specifically for it are doing so well (basically popcap and WoW at this point). The PC gamer as we consider them is kind of a niche.
Metl
#14339 posted by Ant on 2008/06/02 07:19:40
Can relate to wuggas take on ant. Laugh. I played through chaos and rubicon yesterday (nice web page for the maps too) and they didn't drive me a little crazy like antedeluvian. Shit he can play though.
#14340 posted by JneeraZ on 2008/06/02 12:22:41
"So surely manufacturers will continue shipping titles to the PC, simple as to maximise their potential market..... ?"
The answer is: maybe. Shipping on PC is a -LOT- more work than it is to ship on consoles. With consoles, once it works on your xbox at the office, it will work on everyone's xbox. With PCs, you have to enlist an army of compatibility testers and add tons of special case code to handle every possible permutation of hardware and driver issue. It adds a lot of overhead and fewer and fewer companies are willing to be bothered anymore.
The PCs greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
#14341 posted by starbuck on 2008/06/02 14:01:11
The PCs greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
With great power comes great responsibility.
Breaking Down The Incompatibilty Barriers...
#14342 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/02 14:58:21
I would say that perhaps as we move into the future we will see technology reach a certain plateau....?
Already we would see that modern console games share the same technology as mid-high end graphics cards have to offer. The same technology which is used to power PC games and console games alike.
Admittedly there are compatibility problems at the moment with regards to PC gaming, but I would say that as hardware is pushed boldly and blindly into the future software is running to catch up, and it's a loosing battle. I would guess that ten or even five years down the line compatibility/hardware requirements become a much less significant issue with cross-platform games support as platforms having the power to run software becomes much less of a questionable issue...
Its true what some have said - buying a newer PC to play one or two key games (Crysis) is a strange thing to do - especially as the games arent that great other than appearance wise. And also let it be true that top selling games (WoW) do not necessarily have to be the ones with the best graphics, but the ones with the better gameplay. Surely a shift away from creating games which have "groundbreaking graphics" towards games which have "vastly appealing gameplay" in the future would result in perhaps a larger number of games, with more focus during development on the idea of "making a good game" rather than trying to "exploit new hardware to the max".
Imagine a game like World of Warcraft, which is supported by consoles and PC's which has ONE online network for all platforms - each platform available to utilize and access one online unified community. I would say this could be just around the corner....
Nah
#14343 posted by ijed on 2008/06/02 15:28:08
It's a technology rockface. There's potentially some plateau at the top, but there's a million different ways to reach it. It may also be well beyond our lifetimes that any such plateau can even be imagined, let alone designed as a viable framework.
Possibly as OS's continue improve we'll see better cross-pollination, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Hrm
#14344 posted by megaman on 2008/06/02 18:21:07
Shouldn't Nvidia and ATI have a strong interesting in making PC gaming interesting?
Their first step should be to make the drivers better (so programming gets easier), i guess.
CPU vendors share that interest, too. Where are the ueber-cool, free, resource-hog games that are sponsored by CPU vendors? If I were Intel, i'd sponsor all the free OpenSource engines out there, and maybe the mod scene, too.
#14345 posted by Sielwolf on 2008/06/02 20:36:59
There's potentially some plateau at the top
yes it's called the NWO
New World Order?
#14346 posted by ijed on 2008/06/02 21:15:19
Bah�'�s believe that it embodies God's divinely appointed plan for the unification of mankind in this age.
Ricky
#14347 posted by inertia on 2008/06/02 22:07:26
I would say that perhaps as we move into the future we will see technology reach a certain plateau....?
shitting christ I hope not...
Yeah
#14348 posted by Lunaran on 2008/06/03 04:09:54
I can't wait to have to build another new computer with a kilowatt power supply that puts out more heat than a camping stove so I can play games that are even more expensive and unoriginal.
Stay away, technology plateau!
Looks Interesting:
#14349 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/04 17:41:14
RickyT23
#14350 posted by megaman on 2008/06/06 14:28:21
did you ever get my mail response? not that there was anything (terribly) important in it, i just want to know ;)
No - Mail Response?
#14351 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/06/06 15:57:47
Sorry - I haven't received anything... :O
FTP
#14352 posted by DaZ on 2008/06/08 19:14:53
Can anyone recommend any good FTP programs for windows?
#14353 posted by czg on 2008/06/08 19:41:24
Core Ftp Works
#14354 posted by bambuz on 2008/06/08 19:55:34
of course, don't use ftp, it's unsecure use sftp. Same reason never use telnet but ssh.
Hmm I Just Use Fireftp
#14355 posted by bear on 2008/06/08 21:41:39
firefox add-on
Totalcommander
#14356 posted by megaman on 2008/06/09 03:01:59
has great ftp support...
SmartFTP
#14357 posted by biff_debris. on 2008/06/11 00:07:34
Just click past the little popup about paying (you're not required if it's for personal use).
This Made Me Lol...
#14358 posted by DaZ on 2008/06/12 04:09:57
http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=88459
This game has blatently ripped off ENTIRE LOCATIONS from Oblivion, UT2004, Thief 3 and perhaps other games also, and it is now on store shelves, I can smell a major lawsuit from the other side of the milky way...
Amazing...
Screenshots
#14359 posted by Lunaran on 2008/06/12 12:35:40
the backgrounds in that adventure game are all screenshots.
This is interesting legal territory. They're not shipping assets from any of those games, they're using screenshots of them, which I think falls into the same legal territory as cover bands or sampling/remixing.
/me gets popcorn
The Plot Thickens...
#14360 posted by DaZ on 2008/06/12 13:14:59
Current games/movies ripped off for this adventure game
* Black & White 2
* Oblivion
* Morrowind
* Diablo (Skulls, Helm, the freakin' UI)
* Theif
* Silent Hill 3
* Painkiller
* Unreal Tournament 2003/2004
* Konami's Silent Hill series
* Troika's Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines (PC)
* The 1997 film Spawn
* Pirates of the Caribbean
legal teams moving in:
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/1343/bethesda-legal-team-looking-into-limbo-of-the-lost
ROFL! what drama!
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