Wait, were "instructions posted above" adding the -nomultisample -nostencil?


That seems to make no difference, other than adding:

Warning: Stencil disabled at command line
Warning: Multisample disabled at command line

to the log.


Also, I could email this stuff instead of cluttering this thread.... 

http://quakeone.com/proquake/mark_v_2016-11-16b.zip

http://quakeone.com/proquake/mark_v_dx_2016-11-16b.zip

Everything fixed except ...
1) Icaro HD folder. (Will be fixed in revision 3)
2) mfx/fifth tidle console. (Will be fixed in revision 3)

@fifth - Made 2 mirrors that can see other, the 2nd mirror becomes "non-mirror" in that frame. 

What are last 5 lines of qconsole.log when crash on your old XP computer? That may be enough for me.

Be sure to you are using -developer in the command line. 

Stab in the dark .. possible fix.

Let me know!
http://quakeone.com/proquake/gunter_nov16.zip

Make sure you run this .exe which has a different name. Crosses fingers. 

Oh, sorry, I missed that small post you made above telling me to use -developer.

I got the new version, and here's what I get as the last lines after crash:



Playing demo from demo1.dem.
Mouse Released
Serverinfo packet received.
Host_ClearMemory
Clearing memory

the Necropolis
Using protocol 15
e1m3 loadname
sv.modelname
e1m3 cl.modelname 

huh, and if it matters, if I disable the startup demos and just try to load the Start map, the blank lines that appeared after "clearing memory" above (I deleted them because they just looked blank), instead say:


SpawnServer: start
Clearing memory
Programs occupy 403K.
PR_AllocStringSlots: realloc'ing for 256 slots
Mod appears to support impulse 12
start loadname
maps/start.bsp sv.modelname
cl.modelname 

Try the one I just posted that has a possible fix. http://quakeone.com/proquake/gunter_nov16.zip 

Sorry again! I missed your "stab in the dark" ... This "forum" page is a bit hard to navigate, heh.

One moment....

Nope, no good. qconsole log seems the same. 

You up for one last try in the next 15 minutes?

I think your video card may not support glMatrixMode(GL_TEXTURE) 

Ok... Gunter.

Do it again, with **zero external textures** in your Quake folder.

If it works when you do that, your video card doesn't support glMatrixMode(GL_TEXTURE)

If it doesn't, it's something else. 

Yes, I'm ready to test.
The last GL version I COULD run was:

mark_v_20150416b_windows.zip
mark_v_e.exe

Would that happen to be right before you added glMatrixMode(GL_TEXTURE)? 

Yeah, I disabled (actually, renamed the folders) all external things for testing already.

Running the DX version to check, there are definitely no textures loading. 

I'm checking between that and 2015 May 2 version ... see if anything obvious ... 

I gave it my all to try to make your old graphics card work -- all the possible leads I have would require a drastic rewrite (check out Quakespasm's thread to see insanely stupid and possibilities that bad opengl drivers can cause).

Looks like you'll have to use the DX version, but at least you can set shadows -1 and have weapon transparency now. 

Well, gosh darn it to heck. 

Solution: update graphics card? 

re: International keyboard support

For some reason I can't seem to pull down the console even though it's bound to tilde. I rebound it to z and it works.

What language keyboard + keyboard version are you using?

Like for example, I'm betting mfx uses German Qwertz. I need to know what the keyboard key you expect to toggle the console (and whether or not you are doing shift).

Shift + ESC should unconditionally toggle the console on any language keyboard as a temp workaround.

In the console, also as a temp measure, typing in_keymap 0 may make things behave as you expect.

Mostly if you guys can communicate to me how it should work, I should be able to get it right ... 

It's a laptop ... you need to make Gunter mad enough he throws it in a burst of anger. Haha 

Ah, I see. Well, maybe NOT fixing it can be a step in this direction... jk 

Just to be "Gunter-level-of-thorough," I booted up my OLD WinXP laptop (an HP Pavilion ze4101 circa 2002) and tested....

Again, the older mark_v_e.exe GL runs, but the new version crashes.

The error popup actually says:


The exception Interger division by zero,
(0xc0000094) occurred in the application at location 0x0046733d.


And here's the qconsole log, which is similar except the totally different (but even older) graphics card:


Command line: [ -developer ]
Log file: D:GamesQuake/id1/qconsole.log
Mon Oct 31 21:27:44 2016
Mark V Version 1.00 Windows
Exe: mark_v.exe (1122 kb)
Exe: 19:04:52 Nov 16 2016
Caches: C:/Documents and Settings/Aaron/Application Data/Mark V/caches
UDP4 Initialized: INADDR_ANY, 127.0.0.1
UDP6_GetLocalAddress: gethostbyname failed (Authoritative answer: Host not found)
UDP6_OpenSocket: Address family not supported by protocol family
UDP6_Init: Unable to open control socket, UDPv6 disabled
IPv4 address INADDR_ANY
IPv6 address [::]
Exe: 19:04:26 Nov 16 2016
256.0 megabyte heap
Start map determined to be start
GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc.
GL_RENDERER: RADEON 7000 DDR x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE
GL_VERSION: 1.3.4273 WinXP Release
GL_EXTENSIONS:
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_S3_s3tc
GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_blend
GL_ARB_window_pos
GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once
GL_ATI_vertex_streams
GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3
GL_ATIX_texture_env_route
GL_EXT_abgr
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_point_parameters
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_texgen_reflection
GL_EXT_texture3D
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map
FOUND: ARB_multitexture
FOUND: ARB_texture_env_combine
FOUND: ARB_texture_env_add
Warning: texture_non_power_of_two not supported
FOUND: EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
Swap control enabled
8 bit stencil buffer
Max texture size: 2048
Multitexture: 45407760
Non-Power of 2: 0
Combine: 1
Stencil Bits: 8
completed.Gamma protector set
Windows and context menu key disabled
Hardware gamma enabled
joystick not found -- no valid joysticks (a5)
Accessibility key startup settings saved
Accessibility keys disabled
Mouse Captured
Input initialized
Gamma level 0
Avi capturing module initialized
ACM module initialized

Sound Initialization
Set primary sound buffer format: yes
Using secondary sound buffer
2 channel(s)
16 bits/sample
11025 bytes/sec
DirectSound initialized
Audio: 16 bit, stereo, 11025 Hz
Sound sampling rate: 11025
CDAudio: drive not ready
CDAudio_Init: No CD in player.
CD Audio Initialized

========= Quake Initialized =========

execing quake.rc
execing default.cfg
execing config.cfg
Unknown command "r_viewmodel_always"
Hardware change detected ... Custom Gamma set: contrast = 1
Unknown command "r_viewmodel_winquake"
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
3 demo(s) in loop
Playing demo from demo1.dem.
Serverinfo packet received.
Host_ClearMemory
Clearing memory



the Necropolis
Using protocol 15
e1m3 loadname
sv.modelname
e1m3 cl.modelname 

Where's your -nomultisample -nostencil?

I don't see that in your command line. 

You better double check and be double sure you did the command line right
1) The version I provided (special gunter one)
2) The correct .exe
3) -nomultisample -nostencil -developer

It is possible I solved your problem if you didn't use the right command line. 

It doesn't help, and changes little in the log, other than changing this part:

Swap control enabled
8 bit stencil buffer
Max texture size: 2048
Multitexture: 45407760
Non-Power of 2: 0
Combine: 1
Stencil Bits: 8
completed.Gamma protector set


To this:


Swap control enabled
Warning: Stencil disabled at command line
Warning: Multisample disabled at command line
completed.Gamma protector set



Everything else is identical, including the crash. 

triple-checked the special version, same result, but the error log has all the lines from above:


Swap control enabled
Intel Display Adapter detected
Warning: Stencil disabled at command line
Warning: Multisample disabled at command line
Max texture size: 2048
Multitexture: 452634108
Non-Power of 2: 0
Combine: 1
Stencil Bits: 0
completed.Gamma protector set 

Windows: Open GL | WinQuake (software renderer)
Windows: Direct3D | Source

Still didn't update the Mac build.

Revision 3:

New Feature:

Multiple hdfolders. hdfolder "hires" (1 folder) or hdfolder "hires,qrp,plagues_pak" (multiple folders). Changed: paks in a hdfolder are *ignored*.

Outstanding Issue (only one, unless I skipped something):

International keyboard --> tilde (mfx/fifth) Need to know what keyboard layout and what physical key is being pressed. For the moment, Shift-ESC will always open console and "in_keymap 0" *might* make it work as expected. Let me know!

Resolved:
2 mirrors in view disables 2nd mirror (fifth re:e1m5), bolt.mdl -> bolt1.mdl (qmaster), lavacolor typo fixed (gunter), cl_autodemo off by default (dwere's computer), r_shadows -1 = full dark (gunter), Direct X version mirrors disabled (gunter), mousewheel up/down (dwere), hdfolder set will disconnect (icaro), menu bind key fix (fifth)

Punt or Non-Issue: server bind discard clearing existing alias if named same (gunter) = acceptable for now, few people use aliases. scr_showfps + viewsize < 100 doesn't show (gunter) = intended behavior.

@icaro .. if you still have any issues with hdfolder or how that works, let me know. You don't need to put it in autoexec. In fact, don't. It is read very, very early.

@gunter .. maybe something a thought will come to me on how to solve your video card, but the Direct X build does everything but 2 things. Not too bad.