Vigil
#14111 posted by bambuz on 2008/04/25 15:54:38
true.
5110 and 6110 are the classics. 3210 is the worst ever.
Bleh
#14112 posted by JPL on 2008/04/25 16:18:25
Those phones must be consider as massive weapon of destruction, as they look more like coshes than phones :P
Ungh!
#14113 posted by distrans on 2008/04/26 11:12:11
Just glanced down at my 3310 lovingly...
Apple Pie
#14114 posted by bear on 2008/04/26 13:19:31
I doubt apple would make crappy windows software on purpose since all it does is making people doubt the quality of all their software regardless of platform. On the other hand if they made something good you might be more tempted to switch to mac based on your positive experience.
In the itunes case you can argue that the purpose of the windows version is just to be able to put windows support in the ipod boxes but since they're also porting things like Safari it seems very unlikely that they have some kind of deliberate crappy-win-software strategy.
Safari/ITunes
#14115 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/26 17:14:13
Work OK on my comp, but its a pretty fast computer. ITunes was a real slow bastard of a program on my XP1700.
Thsi is they spend a lot of time makeing the windows versions look just like the mac versions instead of just using the native windows gui, which involves a lot of graphics which are unnecessary imho...
Website What I Made:
#14116 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/26 17:19:35
http://www.lakescot.co.uk
it's gonna get re-made using tables instead of frames, cause it's not very search engine freindly at the moment.
OH well, my first website....
:E
(its for a company who sells feeds for dairy/beef animals)
Safari
#14117 posted by steven_a on 2008/04/26 17:30:35
Dont know how it runs on Win, but all XP users can use the latest version of Safari. With Macs, you have to upgrade to the latest version of OSX before you can use the latest Safari. They're giving their own users the rough end of the stick sometimes.
Imho, OSX has solid design foundations (unix). Their kernel is a bit of a technological mess but is constantly being improved. Microsoft, on the other hand... are going backwards with the kernel, and never had a good overall design because of always ensuring compatibility.
Critcism against Apple about hardware reliability and small dev teams sounds fair to me though.
Opera Mini
#14118 posted by Ijed on 2008/04/26 17:30:48
Posting from a nokia xpressmusic. Will have to wait and see how many times this hits the board
RickyT23
#14119 posted by Spirit on 2008/04/26 17:52:17
Hint: Skip the tables part and go straight for proper webdesign (xhtml & css that is). You will get code much nicer to edit/read too. ;)
Do not use counters visible to visitors. Do not use javascript to display the current date to visitors (...). Infact, do not put stuff on the site just because you can.
The animated cow is most probably copyrighted and you do not want to use copyrighted stuff without permission on corporate websites.
The background image is way too big. You must keep dialup people in mind, especially for such a niche.
The fonts and colors are temporary I hope.
I would suggest using a custom google search instead of that picosearch one, as for many people "google = internet", thus they do know how to use and interpret it.
Nice Advice Spirit!
#14120 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/26 18:59:44
Have have never had any training tin web-design. Completely self taught. I have come to realise a lot of my short comings after publishing that website. A lot of things only became obvious after posting it. When I started to try to "submit to google" and create a site-map it became obvious that the frames cripple the effectivness of the site straight away.
Im using css for the fonts/text style. My uncle was showing me last week that it can be used to actually format the page too! I thought it was only used for the text-styling! I can see straight away (now) that the benefit of using it for the actual layout is fantastic, and the desired website style is to have each page of information as a stand-alone page, with its own menus/links. It would be quicker to load, and google's robots would "see" the whole page. At the moment I think they see the root page (index.htm) which contains frame defenitions and not much else, and then miss the rest of the site. This is in the head:
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content=
"text/html; charset=us-ascii" />
<meta name="revisit-after" content="35 days" />
<meta name="robots" content="all" />
<meta name="description" content=
"Lakeland-Scottish Feeds and Services are Agricultural Merchants ........ etc/>
<meta name="keywords" content=
"Lakeland-Scottish, Lakeland, Scott...... etc
I dont know if this will help things or not, but for starters I would have to update the list of keywords manually, it wouldnt be dynamic and most of the site is still missed...
So yeah - xhtml and css you say? Any where with detailed info, tutorials you might point me (I need to look anyway)...
(thanks btw)
:P
Was Reading The News And Noticed That...
#14121 posted by Jago on 2008/04/28 03:31:03
Awesome, so Chicago just got more shooting deaths (31) over a single weekend than my entire country (Finland) does over a year. WTF.
Jago
#14122 posted by bal on 2008/04/28 08:01:53
It's cause GTAIV was released, duh.
Gun Control Debate
#14123 posted by SleepwalkR on 2008/04/28 08:04:29
now pls.
No
#14124 posted by Vigil on 2008/04/28 10:14:09
Let's talk GTAIV instead.
Comes Out Tommorrow Right?
#14125 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/28 10:18:01
Wander how long before the PC version does? I'll probably get the 360 version! (Cant believe it, the 360 I bought 25 months ago still works, I bought it with GTAIV in mind!)
Apparently you cant make yourself really fat in this one :(
My Realism, Noooooooooooooooooo!
#14126 posted by czg on 2008/04/28 12:49:35
Czg:
#14127 posted by bear on 2008/04/28 14:27:29
#14121
#14128 posted by Shambler on 2008/04/28 14:44:06
Finland is teh loser.
Flippin 'Ek
#14129 posted by anonymous user on 2008/04/29 03:26:20
Stalker, Company Website and Band.
The titles of three things which have been stopping me from mapping...
Tsk tsk
(PS - Heh - Newer version of company website now availiable for heckling:
http://www.lakescot.co.uk/
At least it shows up in Google now, down with frames!!!!)
Make The Logo A Png
#14130 posted by bambuz on 2008/04/29 15:42:28
jpg sucks for such graphics, gets distortion on sharp boundaries.
Also I'd say go for a more pro look. It's clean but amateurish. Too big text, weird colors etc...
Version 3 Website Is Under Construction
#14131 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/29 16:26:04
That website (V2) was a quick fix just to get it onto google. I think it looks better than the first one, although I should have removed all of the table borders.
New website is made from CSS and XHTML as suggested. Heh - I've been about a decade behind with my web skillz. :-(
That CSS is eating up my mapping time. Ah well, atleast I'll be able to make a decent website for myself after I've learned all this!
CSS is ace man! The only thing that was bugging me is trying to get an outline around fonts without having to use a java plugin type thingy. I dont think it's possible. Opacity function is cool, also rollover is cool and doesnt require Java. I've learned a hell of a lot in the last 72 hours about web-authoring!
Heh, I'll post another link after I've released the new one. Fuck me - 42 hits and I bet not one of them was a prospective customer! :P
All just nosey Quake fans
God -
#14132 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/04/29 16:28:10
after I've released the new one
that almost sounded is if it were a new level or something, as if a single person who reads this is gonna find it even vaguely interesting.
Rickyt23
#14133 posted by Spirit on 2008/04/29 16:39:54
I love tinkering around and played with that page, take or leave it for further fun. No idea how it renders in different browsers and OSs, but it shouldn't be too bad.
http://www.quaddicted.com/stuff/rickyt23/
At least the code should be a decent base for you.
I will remove it once you replied so no search engine spiders it.
Java is not Javascript. And do not use Javascript unless you MUST. :p
Thanks Spirit
#14134 posted by bambuz on 2008/04/29 17:13:53
that's useful for many people who do web design every now and then
Class="narrowlisting"
#14135 posted by megaman on 2008/04/29 17:19:05
semantic classnames and ids, please.
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