#115 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/12/17 11:25:29
Zwiffle
No no, the point is that this is what they were wearing when the zombies showed up. They didn't choose to dress like that.
Heh
#116 posted by DaZ on 2009/12/17 11:47:11
Really I think people read too much into this sort of stuff, I mean WOAH, Rochelle wears earrings? HOLY FUCK GUYS EARRINGS.
So pretend you are a woman for a minute, your walking down the street and suddenly 100 zombies run out at you, the 1st thing you are going to do is take off your earrings because they are not suitable for a zombie apocalypse?
It seems that people complain whenever characters in games resemble any sort of sterotype, so lets make all game characters have green skin and 2 heads and come from the planet zog? These people are human and come from Earth, so yeh they are going to resemble SOME SORT of sterotype.
/rant :P
Hmm
#117 posted by nonentity on 2009/12/17 11:48:11
Yeh, that's fair enough Willem, but I think his point was that you'd at least take off the tie...
A Better Point Being...
#118 posted by Shambler on 2009/12/17 12:01:01
Every second you're dicking around undoing a tie is more time that a zombie is trying to chew into your skull because you're not shooting the fucking thing.
Which is why I wear zombie-proof clothing in day to day life, just in case...
Hmm
#119 posted by nonentity on 2009/12/17 12:16:33
And all that time sitting in safe rooms reloading/bandaging/changing weapons/etc they don't have time to take off the tie?
(I think we maybe play games too much, there's a certain inability to distinguish fact and fiction here... ;)
Hello Kitty Pyjamas
#120 posted by ijed on 2009/12/17 14:04:34
In a zombie Apocalyse - that's got to be a replacement skin.
#121 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/12/17 14:56:43
negke/Willem, you completely missed my point. I understood where you were coming from in the first place, that's there normal everyday clothing, but my point was this: How hard is it to take off a tie, take out your earrings, or button up your overalls in a safe room? How long will that take? 5 seconds? Nonentity got it right away...
DaZ - yeah, I just kind of said it initially as a joke but I guess people took it to be a real argument :) But hey, if it makes some discussion why not talk about it.
#122 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/12/17 14:57:35
"that's *not *their normal, everyday clothing..." I just woke up cut me some slack.
#123 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/12/17 15:07:24
I can't believe we're even talking about this to be honest. :) They're probably distracted with the whole, "there's 10,000 zombies trying to kill us" situation. Cheers!
Zwiffle
#124 posted by negke on 2009/12/17 15:18:21
You're right that everybody probably would have take it off. But the point that, for example, Louis still wears his tie is to reinforce his role as a business man. This way it's more easily recognizable and supports the intented impression of 'four random characters from different ends of society' teaming up in an extreme sitation (people who don't have much in common and wouldn't have bothered with each other if it wasn't for the zombie killing thing).
#125 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/12/17 15:25:26
Well to steer this into a different direction, since everyone has made their points (and only mine were valid!) it would have been cool if Louis had a red pen in his shirt pocket that leaked, and someone telling him after a bloody fight that he has red on him.
Or maybe they did that, and I never noticed.
Well If You're Gonna Die
#126 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/12/17 16:00:56
In a zombie apocalypse, you might as well do it in style :P
Hmm
#127 posted by nonentity on 2009/12/17 21:38:35
Yeh, I get why they styled the characters like they did negke, and tbh I think it works well. Without the tie louis wouldn't be nearly as well stylised.
I just think some of us may have read this book one too many times (note, also shave your hair ;)
#128 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/12/17 21:58:21
I've never read the Zombie Survival Guide but I want to. What I was referring to was just common sense. Hence, my use of the term, common sense.
I would like it if they had Coach wear riot gear like the zombies. He does say something to the effect of "Those zombies are wearin' armor! I WANT ARMOR!"
Coach is a smart man.
Hmm
#129 posted by nonentity on 2009/12/17 22:01:03
Read it.
Now.
Also World War Z (which is arguably a better tale, altho less practically useful...)
#130 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/12/17 22:37:47
Yeah I read World War Z and still want to read Zombie Survival Guide, and I actually recommended WWZ to bler, and then he forgot I recommended it to him and he recommended it to me, kinda silly.
Also, I wish I could talk about WWZ further beyond the book, but I can't. But I want to.
LOL.
#131 posted by Shambler on 2009/12/17 22:52:14
Yes. Don't read the Morningstar Virus thingy book though (different author), it's gash.
#132 posted by metlslime on 2009/12/17 23:41:25
You could make the argument that as clothes are central to our constructed self-identity. Monks, soldiers, and prison inmates wear uniforms to weaken the power of their past/civilian identity. In a zombie apocalypse you would probably want to keep your clothes as way to maintain a connection to the past life and identity, rather than give yourself up fully to a new life as a savage and a survivor.
#133 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/12/17 23:50:43
You might want to, but that would seem to me to be hardcore denial. I don't see how that could help you survive a zombie apocalypse.
Now personally, I was never one for style, I just kind of wear video game clothes and whatever makes me feel comfortable and warm. I could imagine a zombie apocalypse doing more psychological harm to someone like Pope, who seems to thrive on trendy merchandise.
I just see going more utilitarian in a life-or-death scenario as the better, more logical option, instead of something (to paraphrase metlslime's post in an asshole-ish way) similar to "Ooh this isn't happening this isn't happening this isn't happening I'm going to listen to some Depeche Mode" ...
Wait a minute, maybe that explains everything about Rochelle. She's just in major denial.
Well
#134 posted by ijed on 2009/12/18 00:14:43
I always thought it'd make sense for Louis to have his tie tied around his arm. He'd want to look after it but in a pocket it'd get lost. All the running around would mean he'd at least loosen it.
#135 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/12/18 00:43:34
"You might want to, but that would seem to me to be hardcore denial. I don't see how that could help you survive a zombie apocalypse."
Mmm, there is an argument to be made there along the lines of the mental game is as important as anything else. Holding onto your humanity in a world of undead monsters would mean a lot in terms of motivation and keeping yourself going.
#136 posted by Zwiffle on 2009/12/18 00:46:57
Yeah, I don't think taking out some earrings or taking off your tie counts as losing your humanity.
#137 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/12/18 01:07:04
Never having been in a zombie apocalypse, I can't say for sure.
What
#138 posted by ijed on 2009/12/18 02:00:55
I thought you worked in a games studio?
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#139 posted by Shambler on 2009/12/18 10:22:28
Brilliant, good discussion guys :)
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