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Strafe looks fun (and other similar things like Gibhard do too) buuuuut... procedural level generation.

Procgen is cool and interesting, I'd love to give the results a try, and I completely understand why small indie teams in particular gravitate that way. But I still assume that it's going to be a different experience in lots of way than the "traditional" singleplayer FPS campaign with designed spaces to explore. At least, for the aspects of games that I personally pay attention to.

(Similarly when I see folks on twitter or wherever talking about how Devil Daggers is a "Quake remake" it's really weird to me.) 
 
Wasn't there another retro-FPS currently in development, in the same sort of bucket along with Strafe and Gibhard? I'm blanking on it. 
Retroblazer 
 
Sorry For The Post Spam But... 
...the other one I was thinking of is http://www.desync-game.com/ 
Wake Me Up 
When someone makes a 90s throwback shooter that actually has hand-crafted levels and not this procedural shite.

Hang on...I've just had an idea... 
 
Except Desync doesn't use procedural levels (thank god for that). 
Well. 
Both those games look like ass, HTH. 
 
skacky: neat, I think I had in mind that Desync was an arcade/score-attack thing with simple and/or procgen levels. Not sure where I got that idea from. Flipping through their devlog I do see them talking about level designers now. 
 
Not really terribly interested in desync. The character design and theme doesn't really do it for me, it's not relate-able at all.

Strafe is a strange one, I kind of like the idea but I'm not 100% sold on it. I played an early version and the scale feels kind of wrong, wouldn't be a difficult fix IMO as they just need to scale up their map size a tad.

Fun fact, I applied for a job with them as a level designer and got some fun back and forth but it never got me the position. They said it was a paid position but maybe I asked for too much money from them (I didn't ask for a lot but it was probably a considerable amount for an indie dev to pay, they should have haggled maybe). 
DESYNC 
Is like a FPS Hotline Miami. It has combos and shit in handcrafted levels, and it's pretty damn fun to play. 
#1349 
Let's start an online petition to change it.

And another to make mfx login to Func_ on his cellphone. 
No 
It's not a 1st person hotline miami at all. It's more like an attempt to make a Tron game without infringing on any trademarks. 
 
The way indies use the word "procedural" nowadays is an insult to .theprodukkt's .kkrieger . 
Sleepwalkr 
I mean the way it plays is very similar to Hotline Miami. It's a difficult die & retry FPS in which you have to score the maximum amount of points as fast as possible. 
Ah Ok 
Didn't catch that meaning. Thanks for clearing it up. 
Doom Reverse Sleeve Art 
 
Lol B is way ahead, as it should be. 
I Grealty Prefer Both Over The Current Cover Art 
Of the two, I prefer B as well. 
 
I voted on A by mistake. They put the URLs inside of the pool options, and when clicking them using the Twitter app it casts a vote instead of opening the URL.

I had to manually type the URL to open the thing in the browser� but afterwards I found out that those pics were near the top of the Doom account tweets anyway.

I bet a significant number of others also voted on A by mistake. Twitter doesn't let us change our votes. 
A By A Long Way. 
 
Doom Multiplayer Trailer 
for those who haven't seen it yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNFUAH3V1U4

I enjoyed the brief time I had playing Halo 3 multiplayer so I can see this being pretty fun.

Some media outlets are saying it's "exactly like unreal", which I don't see... at all. Doom doesn't appear to be a twitch shooter, which I think is probably a wise move. 
 
Whaaaaaaaat a shitty shit shit shit shit shit announcer voice!! ARGHHHHH!?!???

"Doom doesn't appear to be a twitch shooter, which I think is probably a wise move."

You serious ? 
 
OK I litteraly scoffed my coffee out my nose at "unoutchable" at 0:42

My fucking god what are they on ? 
 
i hope that's temp V.O. 
1380 
Yes. Twitch fps players tend to be rather particular. If the the doom muliplayer ended up being mediocre I think they would get more mileage out of a halo clone than a twitch shooter. 
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