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Errrr... Blitz's HandBook reference.. or mine ? :P It actually makes a big difference you know...
I did however read the entire article about nerds! I dont really know what Blitz was trying to say with his post. Will there be computers in heaven? Quake mapping? Or maybe the true power of the imagination will be harnessed, out creations only limited by the vividness of our lifes dreams...
http://ditte.deds.nl/~r_666.rar
http://ditte.deds.nl/~r_666.dz http://ditte.deds.nl/ feedback appreciated. But please fix the leaks properly instead of boxing the map, align some more textures (or use a different - rivetless - texture on the sides of the beams), let the monsters in front of the GK door move out of the floor instead of having those sky-textured platforms above, sent the map to gibbie for approval.
nitin: SP I had a look at your map - played it through - it was pretty fun!! I played on skill 1. I would throw in the following constructive criticism:
Too much ammo! I dont think you needed to put half as much shells in the map. Also for a map with 26 monsters I dont think you need a rocket launcher or a supernailgun. You would get away just fine in this map with a supershotgun, nailgun and a grenade launcher! Leaking map - I take it that you tried to run vis for this map, and it wouldnt work. What has happened is there is a leak from the inside of the map leading out to the 'void'. Your solution is to make a massive box around the map and hollow it! This allows vis to run, right? I know because that is exactly what I did for all of the maps (except the start map) for my first release 'DejaVu'. Take a look and see! It is bad practise. You end up with a load of unused space between the outside of the map, and the inside of the surrounding box. This could be described as 'unnecessary lightmaps', or so they tell me ;-P There is infact a solution though! I dont know if you noticed but when you have run your QBSP program to build the map it will have, at some point, said something like: "leak found at (co-ordinates) writing to r_666.pts" This 'pts' file is called a pointfile. Load your map as normal, bring down the console and type 'pointfile' (make sure your pts file is in id1/maps). This will draw a dotted line which will show you where the leak is. If you cant at first see the dotted line, type "gl_clear 1" and 'noclip' outside of the map, and you should see it! Then all you have to do is go back into your editor and adjust the brushes so that the leak has gone. Repeat this process until QBSP finds no leaks. When you run QBSP there will be a line which says "outleafs 0" or "outleafs whatever" (in the case of the boxed map). This should be a positive number. For more info, look to the documents at the bottom of this page here, AguirRe's site: http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k Neg|ke is right about the sky platforms - they dont quite look right. Apart from that, for a first map its actually pretty good! Some of your brushwork is very impressive, lots of curves and angles, reasonable texturing - impressed by the lighting :D Just a few technical bugs to iron out and you'll be rocking! I enjoyed playing it, thanks! On the SP maps page of Quaddicted.com, the link to thehand.html is incorrect. It points to thefly.html instead.
There is also a link to thefly directly above it too which incidentally was an inspired level IMHO, love the bit where it looks like your walking on the wall! :D I played Februus depth earlier on this week too. I didnt make it to the end cause I was in a hurry, maybe about 4/5ths through! That is a cool map czg. I love the way that it manages to have parts which are very open but seem enclosed. Your calculations of monster line of sight is cool too. You would often hear a monster before you would see it. And they are positioned so that they come at you from different angles, and see you before you see them. Your vis-blocking is very clever too! Do you still map for Q1 these days?
Fill me in on the history here.
I mean, christ, I know things can get a bit warm around here from time to time. It reminds me of my first band. We were all very creative, and wanted to play original music, and naturally it caused friction. I remember Lunaran telling me that, basically, he found Sickbase offensive. I didnt like that! That kinda why I made the Hand. Refuse to be beaten! Daft though - I made Sickbase in spite of the people who said that DejaVu was too short and too easy! People said theHand was OK, and I seem to be finding it harder to come up with ideas for my new map. Weird huh? You confuse me though. You can be very helpfull on the technical threads, but very sinnical on other threads, and you rarely post about other peoples maps. Yet you obviously find Func a worthy read... Dark Horse!! You just have to keep in mind that it is impossible to please everybody here ;)
you also have to keep in mind nobody is fair here... particlarly czg who hates evrybody, even himself :D Will there be computers in heaven? Quake mapping? Or maybe the true power of the imagination will be harnessed, out creations only limited by the vividness of our lifes dreams...
I hear they cut your daemon away. rutger: Not bad the map, here's my few cents. - too much ammo (much) - health should be more evenly distributed - more variety in monsters needed - RL and shaft, probably even SNG not needed - source your light - use torches/lamps etc. - sometimes it's a bit crampy - theming was good, consistent Playtesting would help a lot. Send your map privately to some other mapper, or a known good playtester such as sielwolf. Make the next one soon plz :-) You confuse me though. You can be very helpfull on the technical threads, but very sinnical on other threads, and you rarely post about other peoples maps. Yet you obviously find Func a worthy read...
Sincerity is an eyesore (but then again, so is my pimply ass). But... that is the dutch way! (sorry dino satellite boy for never forgetting this)
Did I come across as a cynical, disinterested but elite respectable lurker enough? Kinda like what a Vore would be, if it could talk? Kinda like what what Anton Chigurgh would be like, if he was a message-board-poster and not an evil killer, but if he also cared what people thought of him by making comments online?
k let discussion begin
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