how the hell did I not realise that tab pretty much locks the axis you want to move along? This could have saved me so much time.... 

there's a manual! it's pretty good! 

I get this error: Malformed map file: expected token of type opening parenthesis, or closing parenthesis, but found integer number at line 15, column 89 

Read the MM thread again carefully. 

Also, holding alt while you move the brush will lock movement to vertical only (y-axis). 

I went to make a sandwich and came back to this. Console says there were no errors. WTF? 

 

5 to 10 minutes(?). 

But that should have kicked in before, and others would have run into it also. Sorry, no idea what that was. Hope you didn't lose too much work. 

I actually lost nothing, the editor continued to work just fine. 

like double clicking a func_detail will select all the brushes in that group... or pressing alt and the arrow keys will flip the brushes 90 degrees.

I feel like a noob! 

Read the docs and have a look at the cheat sheet. All those keyboard commands are in there.

Btw, the double click behavior might change in TB2. Single click on a brush that belongs to an entity (other than worldspawn) will select all brushes in the entity. Double click to select individual brushes. Discuss. 

 

I personally prefer being able to just grab a single brush of an entity right off the bat, because most of the time, that's all I need to work with. If I need the rest, there's a shortcut to select all it's siblings.

I forget what other editor it was that selected all the brushes of an entity when you clicked just one, but it was honestly one of the most annoying parts for me. 

I forget what other editor it was that selected all the brushes of an entity when you clicked just one, but it was honestly one of the most annoying parts for me.

Seems like Worldcraft used to do that. On the other hand having to go to the menu and click or use a 3 key combination just to select all brushes of an entity is a pain.

Just selecting a single brush by default seems best. Maybe highlight the other brushes if the one selected is part of an entity and then use an alternate method to select the rest (double-click, shift-click, whatever...). 

It's hard to say without trying it.. but I think it would be annoying for people who use func_group/func_detail heavily. if most brushes are part of some entity, then you would have to get used to always double-clicking to select a single brush, and i'd guess that selecting a single brush is more common than selecting the whole entity. 

Once some brushes have been tied together as an entity, you click once to select the whole entity. Seems logical to me, but I've been using the same editor for freakin' years. 

select one or all the brushes is just as simple as one or two clicks it doesnt matter for me. 

That originally asked for this, just because I'd been used to Worldcraft working like that.

Now, after using TB for so long, especially managing func_groups a lot, I'm not sure which method is better.

Not quite a full 180 on opinion, more like a sharp 90. 

It would be nice to get some sort of simple grouping that wasn't reliant on turning the brushes into a fund_group ... then you could include entities in the group as well. 

It can get a little messy since you need to sprinkle stuff into the MAP file, but that's just extra parsing for Trenchbroom and if they are comment lines they won't affect the compilation at all... 

I want to be able to group brush and point entities. 

I like the way selecting entites currently works, but grouping stuff is needed yeah. 

if it can be done well. I'd love a function like this as I have, at least in my latest map, a few entities together that rely on separate alpha values... 

TB2 will feature groups and layers which are based on func_group, but extended so that you can also add entities to them.

Okay, the more I think about it, the less convinced I am of the new selection stuff for brush entities. I'll keep it was it was, i.e., one click selects one brush, and you can select all brushes of an entity with a double click or a keyboard shortcut.

Thanks!