yeah I did forget that one. I'll easily admit that the base list is the weakest - not only are there by far the most base maps as opposed to the smaller pools of medieval, runic and elder world maps, but base is not really my area of expertise. Sorry. 

the "top 10 rubicon-textured maps" list 

http://www.quaddicted.com/interviews/biff_interview.html
http://www.quaddicted.com/interviews/ijed_interview.html
http://www.quaddicted.com/interviews/metlslime_interview.html 

Morbidity and Arcane, by they bring back memories. I remember being blown away by both those back in the day. 

scores 2nd on the top 10 Runic maps list?

*blinks eyes*

ISTR a "worst map ever" thread on Quakeone where several people said "e1m8". So this score is mildly surprising.

I myself think it's an OK map, nice-ish even, but I wouldn't have expected this. e1m6 is better IMO, especially when you realize e1m7 is really just the chopped off ending.

An id map top 10 would be interesting. 

I've always felt it was really weird and unique; best id Runic map in my opinion and contender for best id map, although e1m6 was good. For once an id map that isn't freaking puny. I'm sure I missed other custom maps that should have been on there. Arcane actually still holds up well, Morbidity 2 is more historical interest.

re: metl
lol, well when you release Rubicon 2, I'll do one. Rubicon 2, Rubicondom, Rubicon, the nomonsters experimental map was rubicon style... am I missing any? 

I thought the initial 14/20 was a bit unfair... 

...am I missing any?

I've actually made 1,5 maps using that set! And was fairly surprised by JJSPQ3's inclusion. 

hrim_Sp1 is also one of the coolest runic maps 

 

You guys are forgetting that any top 10 done by a human being is that person's top 10. It is simply impossible to be objective. 

and it's not definitive even for me; there are things I forgot about, I only put so much work into it.

maybe after the last one's posted, people could post their own versions. 

good work anyway Tronyn. 

make booths guys.

Post screenies, pour out your wisdom, show each other pxxx - I mean booth babes.

Remember QExpo is as much for "outsiders" as for "insiders". And "outsiders" normally want to see glitzy stuff, or download something for free.

Registering an account is as simple as "welcome, you're in". Making a booth doesn't require any HTML knowledge.

:-) 

yeah i thought the lists were great tronyn. course it's all your own opinion, i'm sure everyone else would have different top 10's.

it's especially hard to score when it's individual maps alone, rather than packs.

i wanna see the 4th list! 

but just what criteria makes it an elder world map? :S 

i appreciated that he talked about individual maps within episodes, since so often people only talk about releases as complete units, even though it's not very helpful to compare episode A to single map B.

For example, I've long considered oum3 a favorite, and you could rank it against other maps such as ikspq5, but to try to ask "is insomnia better, or is apsp1 better" is bound to be useless and inconclusive. 

but just what criteria makes it an elder world map? :S

plain architecture, and lots of unlit areas :) 

#126 posted by metlslime [64.175.155.252] on 2008/08/20 03:44:00
but just what criteria makes it an elder world map? :S

plain architecture, and lots of unlit areas :)


I might have a chance at making that list. 

Metl comes close to owing me a new keyboard. 

disorienting layout is also a prerequisite. 

good points in this thread about the definition, which is easily the most difficult out of the four categories. 

but it's a shame you didn't feel you could put Masque in there. :( 

i had a feeling you'd have to open the definition of elder world up like that, tronyn. ;)

i like most of your choices, but i'd have put red777 first. it's one of my all time favourite maps. ^_^ it's the most intricate map i've ever seen with consistent architectural styles and amazing attention to detail.

also, i guess i'm wierd, but i kind of liked bastion more than marcher. :P marcher is visually stunning, but i felt bastion had a better overall vibe.

and yeah, definately masque would have been up there. that was a truly breath-taking map. 

http://qexpo.tastyspleen.net/booth.php?id=167

Some screenshots and a blurb on the Remake project.