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Thought I'd start a thread on this, it could have gone in Gameplay Potential, but this is more specific.

What are the favoured special abilities for monsters to have?

Shield
Homing shots
poison
wall / ceiling climbing
leaping
explosive death
ressurection
cannabalism
spawning / cloning
Teleportation
Dodging

That's off the top of my head, anyone have any other cool ideas or concepts?

And what new abilties could the old monsters have - like Scrags that change to swimming if they enter water (thanks text_fish) or an Ogre that pisses on the player after killing them (thanks Romero).
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Ijed 
right on 
I'll Play It If ... 
1. Clumsy Shamblers that manage to fall into the water float upside-down and flail around helplessly and make lots of noise.

2. White Shamblers get distracted and lose interest in the player if pink female Shamblers come into sight, and they promptly try to mate with the pink Shamblers.

3. Hell Knights have a personality disorder involving obsessive curiosity about teleporters and tend to stand around them and stare at them. 
Yeah 
What Baker said. 
 
I think some people are forgetting that this community likes Quake in its purity. There has always been a gap between mappers and modders, this is just another incarnation of the "problem".

Baker's ideas however are just great!


ijed: Please don't make the poison kill the player. Just leave 1-5 hp. Please! :) 
But 
Do I give the female Shamblers tits?

I was thinking that the poison gets cancelled if the player reaches a health pack or is reduced to red numbers. Regenerating the lost health then would seem odd since the player doesn't have a HEV suit. 
Hmmph 
I think some people are forgetting that this community likes Quake in its purity.

ooooh!!! Saucey. There goes all members PMing Spirit again to tell him what to say on their behalf.

Well I'm not a mamber of no GAY Quake community!! And I want ENHANCEMENTS!! And Ijed (low and behold) is mapping AND modding. There's one for yer G-Spot! ooooh!

I think the female shambler should have some scarring. Maybe one titty remaining. But I dont think she would suit a HEV suit. :P

(popcorn) 
Pfff 
I just forgot one word "majority" or something like that... I guess you know what I mean?

ijed: That sounds good! :) 
Sorry 
I was asleep on the floor in the office. Then I woke up feeling saucey! But now I'm OK :) 
Rofl @ Baker 
Hmm 
No. 
 
"I think some people are forgetting that this community likes Quake in its purity."

I love Quake in its purity. I also like it in various other incarnations, I like it through the eyes of other people, I like its pacing to be changed by a new monster, a new gun, a new map, a modified monster, a modified gun, a modified map. I like to experience Quake as id released it, and as its users are curious to try it as.

I am fine with it as a sidescroller, I am fine with it as a vehicle for an RPG or a racing game, just as much as I am fine with it bearing a hue shifted Enforcer that is periodically invulnerable.

I've never understood the hatred for the concept of modding, it is no more changing of the game than an additional map because it is only an addition to the existing id game. Participation of the user is completely voluntary, and plenty of maps significantly change Quake from what could be argued as pure Quake, without changing a single line of code.

I don't know. Does Beyond Belief violate the purity of Quake by having a Chthon you can kill with weapons, along with acknowledging rocket jumps in game, and delivering personalized messages via centerprint? 
/\ That 
And it's a great ideas trap to bounce concepts back and forth. 
I Like Quake One Here Or There 
I think I like Quake anywhere
I am Quake's most biggest fan
as sure as I am lun-a-ran!

I like Quake upon a boat
I like Quake with eighty goats
I like Quake inside a box
I like Quake beside a fox!

I think about it in the car
zombies, shamblers, there they are!
Quake is awesome you must see
I even like it in a tree!

I am Quake's most biggest fan
as sure as I am lun-a-ran! 
Oh Lunaran 
you certainly are the Duke of Awesome. 
Eighty 
Black goats of the woods? 
#120 
End of discussion. 
Hmm 
I'm amazed that he missed the filled with cocks (cox?) line... 
Lunaran Is Madfox 
there i said it 
Example Bones 
here's a test map with bones.

I have the idea the trick of making it swing with an axe for more than 128 points also is responsable for it'slightly disappearing.

http://members.home.nl/gimli/bones.zip 
Nice 
He's pretty cool.

He has alot of health, much more than I'd expect for such a creature.

His close combat attack animation could be better. Is he using a laser whip? I'd suggest having the movement of the arm much more exaggerated, maybe an overarm smash type movement. If you want to really get it down it'd be cool to see two or even three different animations, with bones randomly choosing which attack to make.

And finally, I saw him die twice occassionally - running through the same anim more than once.

Hopefully you'll take these as constructive criticisms.

Shine on you crazy diamond. 
Bones 
actually it has the same properties as the enforcer, only i made his health 130 in stead of 80. In Qmle you can see that it is the laser bullit I used to convert a kind of whip.

But as it takes more than 2 model units from origin this is also the reason the monsters just disapears. First I thought it as a new manner to respawn the monster. But it can be seen as a bug.

I could make some extra frames for attack. By now I am more worried about the fact he won't die. Same failure I have with the doom monsters.
Sometimes one qc for the new monster isn''t enough and it needs more attachments to the AI.QC Only a newbe in kjuci

I am only waiting for your constructive criticism. If I play it onmy own computer chance is great I play the wrong one..haha. 
Re: Bones 
You do realise the skin you've taken from Q3A - the 'default' bones skin - isn't bone, it's an x-ray, right? Right?
The skin you probably want is bones/bones.tga 
I Was Wondering Why He Was Green. 
:P 
Uh... 
it was the one I thought it was bones.
wrong? Wrong? haha!
If you dare to take bones x bones I'll nail you to the bone! rlof!

but then again.., you're right. Although I like this one. 
I Think It Looks Boney 
The bones of the Garfish are green! 
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