For Weapons Centerpoint
#1235 posted by aDaya on 2016/02/07 11:17:07
That'll be hard considering the standarts in terms of viewmodel modelling is to just model the only visible side, which is a shame. That'll require some reworks but if the worldmodels have as much polygons/texture the same size as the view one that would work.
Also have a way to make the viewmodels a bit smaller, make the chainsaw just like the one in D3 (it was a beast) and have the fists be its own weapon slot (they could be berserk fists anyway, close range attacks are a risk).
Why Downgrade It?
#1236 posted by Skiffy on 2016/02/07 15:35:56
At that point I would just wait till Gibhard comes out... so we can mod that to be a doom game.
#1237 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/07 16:13:45
Why Downgrade It?
A lot of people with Aspergers will get upset when the new Doom game differs from the old games in ways such as "has modern graphics" and "isn't exactly the same as Doom 1/2"
#1238 posted by mh on 2016/02/07 20:22:45
I can see the first tutorials/mods for disabling the takedown/scripted kills...they slow down the gameplay and take control from the player.
I'm still amazed at what part of "glory kills are optional and if you don't want them just don't do them" people are failing to understand.
Depends On How Optional They Are
#1239 posted by aDaya on 2016/02/07 20:51:09
Optional as in "you can turn them off in the options" or as in "you can still kill monsters with guns, the takedowns are just another way"?
#1240 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/07 20:52:09
of course you can still monsters with guns, you guys
#1241 posted by JneeraZ on 2016/02/07 21:33:09
They've already stated that you need to use the special moves to get the monster pinatas to drop the most loot so ... they aren't REALLY optional.
Special Moves
#1242 posted by Rick on 2016/02/07 22:57:37
I hope this isn't a "controller optimized" game where the special moves require tricky multiple button presses/combos that are difficult to do on a keyboard. But I bet it is.
Special Needs.
#1243 posted by Shambler on 2016/02/07 22:58:25
I guess it would be nice if they can be disabled full stop in the settings??
There's Been Some Leaks
#1244 posted by aDaya on 2016/02/14 19:00:52
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-2016-general/86076-doom-alpha-code-strings-new-info-spoilers/
Some of these are (check the full thread for more):
>Archvile confirmed
>Spider Mastermind confirmed
>Automap confirmed
>Shitton of menus
>Game tracks kills/secrets
>Game functions in chapters, like DOOM 1
>There's 5 chapters total
>New Demon types
>"Aqua Marines, and Hell Marines"???
>Mutators for custom multiplayer matches
>One of these mutators allows Strafe Jumping
And check page 3 for weapons showcase, and another webm where the player moves around and it seems to go faster than previous previews.
Now I'll just wait for when the game'll be released.
#1245 posted by mankrip on 2016/02/14 20:12:36
>Cyberdemons (the standard and a "Hell" variant?)
I wonder if the "standard" one is from Doom 3 or from Doom II.
The hysterical, smooth-moving savage cyberdemon we've seen so far is likely the "Hell" version.
I miss the slow-paced, stern, cold-blooded classic cyberdemon that walks and moves like a heavy machinery robot. Its Doom 64 version was bigger but still totally faithful to the character.
However, I also like the Robocop2-ish Doom 3 ROE version with its computer screen face.
#1246 posted by skacky on 2016/02/14 20:19:25
The Cyberdemon in Doom 1 and 2 is anything but slow-paced. It's one of the fastest monsters in the game with the Archvile.
Heh...
#1247 posted by killpixel on 2016/02/16 07:22:44
Hah
#1248 posted by ijed on 2016/02/16 13:30:05
It's got to be the laziest cover in quite some time.
Cover
#1249 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/16 13:33:45
Cover art is decided by the publisher right? Not the developers so I don't see why id should be taking the heat for it.
Depends
#1250 posted by ijed on 2016/02/16 13:45:56
Usually the publisher has their in house artists do the cover and promotional stuff based on developer assets, and they're usually laughably incompetent in comparison, but the publisher execs can't tell the difference.
The dev execs can though, and usually complain and reject the first handful of covers / icons / banners etc.
I doubt that a developer as prestigious as id didn't have a say here, even if it was just to challenge the low quality.
Maybe it got past just because of how unimportant covers actually are in this day and age. I suspect that it'll be replaced as well.
A random screenshot from the demo video with the original DOOM logo in front of it would look better.
#1251 posted by Kinn on 2016/02/16 14:10:43
They should have re-created the original Doom cover but using the actual game renderer and assets.
#1252 posted by JneeraZ on 2016/02/16 14:35:44
Exactly. The generic space marine on the cover is ... a questionable choice, at best.
#1253 posted by mankrip on 2016/02/16 14:48:43
The dev execs can though, and usually complain and reject the first handful of covers / icons / banners etc.
Maybe they're too overworked with the game itself.
#1254 posted by JneeraZ on 2016/02/16 14:53:17
It's up to the art director to make sure things like marketing materials and cover art and screenshots are all what they want to see.
Busy or not, the cover is the first thing a lot of people will see of your game. It requires a decent amount of thought and planning.
... ??
#1255 posted by JPL on 2016/02/16 15:01:40
I am not sure whether this is good or bad, but what I am sure is that the cover generates to my mind a kind of remarkable reminder of the former Doom cover (I am talking about the 90's Doom cover) in which the Marine was the central character...
... so maybe this was the desired effect. And honestly, being lazy in this case is not a argument against the game itself... it is sometimes more efficient to be lazy than failing with awesome trailers/covers/whatever that make the buyer thinking they'll have a jewel and that ultimately they acquired shit (example: Final Fantasy trailer vs ingame came to my mind at first...)
#1256 posted by JneeraZ on 2016/02/16 15:11:27
Well, the art director getting a proper cover ready doesn't impede the team from making an awesome game. He's spending time doing that while the gameplay team is tuning shotgun damage and enemy AI.
... That Was Not Exactely What I Have Been Saying
#1257 posted by JPL on 2016/02/16 15:20:12
... and you are extrapolating too much so far ;)
Bad cover does not mean bad game, and it does not mean good game either. Same applies to good cover, which does not mean good or bad game...
You can even have mean cover with mean/bad/good game... etc... we are discussing about a "50 shades"-like of goodness/badness relation in between things that are purely subjective.
#1258 posted by JneeraZ on 2016/02/16 15:26:43
Of course it doesn't. But marketing matters.
... From My Perspective...
#1259 posted by JPL on 2016/02/16 15:28:55
... and regarding my professional experience... marketing sucks...
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