Even the Quake 3 announcer has more personality than the Doom 4 one... 

The Quake Live one does not. I think it's the same guy even? 

guess they want a more serious vibe, maybe they felt past styles were too cheesy? kinda odd choice for muliplayer.

QuakeX announcer comparisions 

"Quake 2 is actually nothing like Doom or Quake"

It's exactly like Doom or Quake.

As far as game mechanics are considered, yes they are the same... Player character kills enemies while progressing through various levels.

However, the locations and the enemy types are completely different in each game. Which, in my opinion, was reason enough to come up with a different name, but they didn't. 

Remember the build up to Quake 2 and all the press about how the monsters would duck under incoming rockets?

LOL 

Some definitely did? 

is how the overall movement feel a lot more stiff than Quake 1, or Doom for that matter, which is a major stepdown to what we got in Q1.

Also the smaller hitboxes for monsters with the still minuscule ones for the projectiles, making enemies harder to hit with rockets and blasters.

Also fuck the Blaster, piece of shit is the worst starting weapon in any FPSes. At least Doom's pistol was hitscan. 

was nice. my favourite flashlight. 

OTP - Some did. All that meant was it happened once and then players learned to aim low. 

The Enforcer played a duck animation, but his box didn't change.

Lazarus had enemies jump over incoming rockets, run from grenades on the floor and so on. It was an awesome toolkit. 

as for new d4 footage, probably just me but still looks underwhelming IMHO. That was clearly scripted and even then we barely got any 3d gameplay. 

That's the first trailer that made me really excited!

I wish my computers could run this beast (my 9500GT struggles with MK9�). These new designs are awesome! 

conan and football players play doom 

 

Seems mancubus have an aoe like the spitter from l4d2. You can see Marty Stratton observing from the shadows in the back left corner. 

Sucks. 

http://i64.tinypic.com/iep1fm.jpg

hahaha. 

I can see the first tutorials/mods for disabling the takedown/scripted kills...they slow down the gameplay and take control from the player.

The second mod would be to remove/reduce the glossiness of enemies and other objects. Too much modern shine-o-vision as of late. Shiny doesn't mean good and everything looks wet.

Ok maybe the 2nd mod would be to increase player movement speed.

Then would be the gutsavers mod to turn down the gore. Of course removing takedowns alone would cut down on the gore.

Next we would need an AI mod to make the enemies dumber and run straight at the player.

Then we might need a mod for rockets to detect if an enemy is within a certain radius of the rocket and cause the rocket to explode in order to mimic a larger bounding box.

Next we will see a centerpoint mod to bring all weapons to the center of the viewport.

Then someone will hack in gl_texturemode gl_nearest and all hell will break loose. 

That'll be hard considering the standarts in terms of viewmodel modelling is to just model the only visible side, which is a shame. That'll require some reworks but if the worldmodels have as much polygons/texture the same size as the view one that would work.

Also have a way to make the viewmodels a bit smaller, make the chainsaw just like the one in D3 (it was a beast) and have the fists be its own weapon slot (they could be berserk fists anyway, close range attacks are a risk). 

At that point I would just wait till Gibhard comes out... so we can mod that to be a doom game. 

Why Downgrade It?

A lot of people with Aspergers will get upset when the new Doom game differs from the old games in ways such as "has modern graphics" and "isn't exactly the same as Doom 1/2" 

I can see the first tutorials/mods for disabling the takedown/scripted kills...they slow down the gameplay and take control from the player.

I'm still amazed at what part of "glory kills are optional and if you don't want them just don't do them" people are failing to understand. 

Optional as in "you can turn them off in the options" or as in "you can still kill monsters with guns, the takedowns are just another way"? 

of course you can still monsters with guns, you guys 

They've already stated that you need to use the special moves to get the monster pinatas to drop the most loot so ... they aren't REALLY optional.