Well not to hijack this thread any further haha... But I was trying to make a point and failing I guess.

Quake2 focused theme that is more solid for a game.
Quake1 all manner of randomness.

But that is why I agree Q1 lasted longer. It could be more in the long run as it takes little effort to make a haunted cemetery or castle map or even a scifi base map using the default content.

Quake 2... yea base maps if you stick to the default content. I would not dog the lighting style thought because nothing stops folks from doing stylish lighting exactly like we are doing now in Q1 with colored lights. And the same can be said for the levels if more texture sets got made.

But that just did not happen because of the above reasons. Even though you could use KMquake which has the Lazarus mod built in expanding on Q2 in so many ways beyond what has been done in Q1.

For me TB1 revived my interest in Quake. And the new toolset is great for map making especially when using Arcane Dimensions new additions. Plus you guys have made some fantastic maps. I just wonder what the Quake 2 equivalent would be.

I do hope Trenchbroom 2 gives it another chance in that regard. But I digress in the doom 4 thread hehe. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybo30QlSk64 

GOOD and now they have eyes not just skulls without eyesockets and a monster that looks more like a proper hellknight. 

 

I'm really holding out for decent singleplayer. I couldn't give a shit about MP since I never played the originals in MP anyway. 

I'm optimistic again ... just still not 100% sold on the cinematic kills. But it feels nice.

But was that gameplay or a cut scene? Everything seemed to happen with such perfect timing I have to think it was scripted. 

DOOM Agitated Edition 

Ok I love the new Imp design, the Pinky and the Baron at the end. Notice they also have colour (gasp!) on them.

It's almost as if someone sat down and played the original Doom, sometime after all those boring, samey, greyscale, eyeless bellend-head monsters were made, and said "haaaang on....why don't we just make monsters with eyes and personality and that actually look different from each other, kinda like in the original game?"

I hope that guy got a raise. 

Not really. 

Looks a bit more interesting but I'm not in yet as long as PC modding isn't integrated.

Spotted a shielded grunt in the shotgun portion, I'm curious how he will work.

Pinky looks legit though, just like the Baron of Hell. 

even the rocks look like the were being dragged through vaseline. Strange choice.

That brutal stuff.. meh. Kids will love it i guess.
Don't know what to think of it. 

I like the box art.

Come at me bros! 

But regardless, new trailer looks cool, apart from takedown moves. Also Q2 was great HTH. 

Quake 2 is actually nothing like Doom or Quake. I always thought it was a major screw up to not come up with a new name.

Quake is unique in many ways and was a groundbreaking game, but Quake 2 was better as far as being a coherent game experience. 

Quake 2 is actually nothing like Doom or Quake

It's exactly like Doom or Quake.

id have just been making different flavours of the same basic idea since Wolfenstein. They tried to do some other stuff in Rage maybe. 

The new trailer gives a much better impression than anything else they've released. Color, larger hordes, higher tempo, more unique creature designs. I dig it. Glad they aren't waiting till 6/6/16 to release it :P

That box art, though. /facepalm

I'm excited. 

Glad they aren't waiting till 6/6/16 to release it

It is a Friday the 13th though, which is just about perfect. 

 

http://i.imgur.com/rLFJSTD.jpg 

check out the keyed doors around 0:56 of the trailer.

this is from a project i'm working on.

:/ 

killpixel, is that quake or some new engine? 

it's dp 

http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/02/04/doom-2016-campaign-gameplay-analysis-ign-rewind-theater

IGN guys analyse new trailer pretty thoroughly.

Gibs or jibs drama included. 

"Gibs or jibs drama included"

Yaaaaaaaayy....... 

#1180 I think it's "register updated".