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No Need For Another Thread Filled With Sadness 
There's already one here
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60040

P.S. Reagan was the worst president, no question about it! 
HeadThump 
It was your opinion I was after, not quotes from others.

Never mind, it's all in the past anyway. 
Sorry Mike, 
By the time I was feeling better yesterday evening, I made the mistake of humoring a wheedler with extremely low time expectations, a something for nothing type who feels others are there to amuse him and to generaly be his chump to get around to fullfilling your request.

You are right, the impetus for that argument is spent, but if you find yourself feeling up to it next weekend, give me an email hollar and I'll gladly see what I can come up with. 
 
Can someone give me the Cliff's of what the hell kind of clusterfuck I missed? 
Well 
I said 'Bush sucks' and then Calvin Coolidge rapes ponies, and then other people said stuff and now Thump and Inerto are going 1on1. In the angry flame war kind of way, not the sexual way. 
Random Artist/illustrator Pimpage: 
Headthump 
i'm glad that me asking your opinion and asking you some very basic questions means i am a "wheedler" and a "something for nothing type" 
Wrath 
A bunch of people had a flame war not related to mapping whatsoever. 
Vote Fribbles. 
Politics thread would be fine, that's what seperate threads are for, specific discussions.

I just skimmed over 40-odd posts. 
Scampie 
Yeah, sure. But was it entertaining?

Re: Bush - yeah, he's pretty bad. Habeas Corpus? Nah, who needs it? Fucking idiot. 
Well 
If you liked the Philosophy thread, then you might like it, but it's kind of the same "What did he say?" kind of thing, but for Coolidge. 
Oh Cool 
another dicklicking thread 
What Happened To The First One? 
I don't remember seeing that thread... 
Early Worldcraft Versions 
I have been searching all around the deep dark ends of web, looking for versions 1.4 and lower (but not 1.1a) of Worldcraft, and I simply cannot find them anywhere. Anywhere.

Does anybody know, if they even exist, where I can find and download them? 
Sure 
I've got Worldcraft 2.0
Shall I'll punch the load in your mailbox? 
Oops 
you ment 1.4 > 1.1a 
Yeah 
I'm just looking for versions 1.4, 1.3, and 1.2. I already have 1.1a, which is what I normally map with. 
... 
why do you want these versions? 
Why Not Just... 
jump to 1.6a or hammer? 
Merely Experimenting 
Thats all. 
Question 
is there any good user quake 2 engines ?

nothing drastic, but you know minor fixes and improved lighting and stuff. 
I Find KMQuake2 
to be very solid and bloat free; though it runs Lazarus as its native game dll I've seen no ill effects on basic game play. 
New Quake 2 Unit 
In case any of the moderators want to make this a news post, Andrea has released a new 5-map unit for Quake 2.

http://download.jupiter.come2store.com/Andros/citadel.zip

I've only played map one so far, but it is of very high quality, perhaps the best quake 2 release since....well, 5 years maybe? 
ScreenshoooOOOoooooOOOoo0ots 
 
Screenshots 
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