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I got the DP version that was released today(20070407beta3), and everything works fine with it, both glx and sdl. No problems with keys or anything else either. I still can't get the Omicron or Reaper to work, it does appear that the modsmaybe loading, I can bind keys in game, and they will be saved in the config.cfg file of the mod in my home directory, so it seems to be using the mods directory, but still just seems to be plain old Quake, and the addbot command is still not recognised.
I managed to get the Omicron and Reaper bot mods working fine, just had to make all the folders/files lower case.
Just out of curiosity I tried that with the older (20060606) version of DP, but no go, it still wouldn't run, come up with some error which ended with something like 'fix your code' In Linux you will into lots of trouble with modders and mappers not naming their files accordingly. Often they use lowercase in their code but have upper-/ or mixedcase filenames. Very annoying. :\
I just found this
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/8666/quake.html No idea if it is known, I did not have it in my bookmarks. 1) no cool, shining, high-tech maps
2)no realistic maps. Quake it's not realistic, its a ***TWISTED NIGHTMARE*** 3)no only brown, boring, gothic map. Quake is also ***RUSTY-BLUE-METAL*** I�d say Quake�s bestiary (similar to Doom�s) can be used in any setting, as long as it�s done in a believable style. (texturing, architecture and so on) Grunts ruin gothic atmosphere? Who said that ? :P Again, if it�s done in a believable fashion, I have personnaly nothing against different monster combos, though id themselves made a clear distinction between the base/ medieval bestiary. 5 make ***MORE ROUTES*** on different levels 6 make ***SECRET*** passages, secret doors, lifts and so on Agreed, though you have to realise it�s a lot of work to make complete sections which like 50% of players won�t even see at all( because they can�t find/ don�t care about secrets) 7 make *** CRAZY WATER*** water sections ( check "liquid despair" map ) Yes, agreed, Quake needs more of that stuff (have you played metlslime�s Antediluvian map?/ ant.zip) 8 Put monsters in the water, ***NOT JUST*** fish Even monsters need to breathe sometimes you know ;) 9 Give enough ammo, health and ***COVER*** Being teleported to another dimension, I don�t think you�ll always find enough resources, escaping alive might be the only option in some cases... as for the RL, well in these times where nearly everyone has played online (=higher skill level in general), including the RL is often regarded as some kind of overkill( poor ogres, dontcha think? :) 10 make traps Yup, instant death traps lick the rust off Barney�s chainsaw.... Because their overall lack of grammar, spelling and general thinking skills doesn't stand out as much within a communicative dialect where the signal to noise ratio is so very, very skewed.
I do now believe this is the correct answer. I looked at that geocities thing Spirit linked and checked out the 'top ten quake maps.' I downloaded five I hadn't played - Discordia, Bridges and Towers, Shadow over Innsmouth, Critters, and Temple del Sol.
Haven't tried innsmouth or temple yet, but re: the other three, Discordia and Critters were woefully short (like 40 monsters), and Critters had some sub-id level brushwork going on. Bridges and Towers, though, was pretty nifty. I was always hovering on the redline for ammo (especially when the whole map goes shambler-town) and you have to play way too much of the beginning with just the shotty, and too long after that with just the shotty/NG, but the architecture is really nice and consistent and the design is very cool. http://www.gamers.org/pub/idgames2/levels/a-c/bnt.zip Unless I'm the only one on earth who missed this map, in which case, bleh. bnt2 as well at the same place. You can find this and many other older maps here http://hosted.planetquake.gamespy.com/teamshambler/list.html with short descriptions.
well that post was really in the spirit of a friendly, open-minded mapping community.
***NOT!!!*** people don't make good maps because someone's breathing down their neck barking arbitrary rules and orders at them. They're made because a good mapper has an intuitive understanding of what makes a game fun. Shadow Over Innsmouth is one of the all-time classics, sort of a 1996-era equivalent to Marcher Fortress in that it really pushed the quality standard.
It's been a long time since i played BNT, but i remember liking the structures but being dissapointed by the visuals -- I think it was too fully-lit and needed to be more shadowy like the E3MX levels. Critters is a great example of the state of the art in 96 -- weird structures, lack of details, and not much texture alignment. Made with Thred of course. Jim's other map "House of Desolution" is also indicative of how things were back then. Worth playing for historical reasons, but not up to today's standards. Am I the only one who reads Quakecorpse's feedback as just friendly feedback from a quake enthusiast? He's basically saying "X is cool but underused, I wish more maps had X." Is there anything wrong with that? Becuase he doesn't map he doesn't get to have an opinion?
well the way it's formatted, it kinda comes across as a bit shouty and angry - but yeah, if you ignore the caps and asterisks, then I can see what you're getting at...
No to all. I agreed with some of what he said, he (she?) just happened to be a little flamboyant.
Though it began with a list title header with the word, 'suggestions', every sentence that fallowed was in the imperative.
I realize it is now common for those who are in MBA type programs to be taught to write in this manner, qualifiers being considered a weakness instead of a show of wit or mental agilaty, traditionaly, the imperative when used excessively like this would be considered an insult. As a lowly player one isn�t worth a Shambler�s turd(I have seen this in a lot of communities, I know what I�m talking about); now if you contribute maps/mods/whatever, everyone�s like *tooth-paste grin*, because they can (and do) expect something from you, players are vampires.
Instead of getting your panties wet, you guys should appreciate someone making atleast an attempt at constructive criticism, maybe he�s some kid who has just played alot of so-called �oldskool� maps lately, let him develop his communication ffs. Another thing is (and it took me a long time to realise), that �community� is not what this board is all about, alot of mappers here know each other from the old Qmap board and want a place to hang out etc. without annoying �intruders�, which is understandable. I also realised that I�m feeling somehow bad, like some spammer when posting here, and I won�t let that unto me, I�d rather write a mail if I like a map that much. Why offended? Dont you see it was just a friendly feedback from a one quake enthusiast to another?
I'm basically saying If he knows that many secrets of making a good quake map, he should definately try his hand at it. It would benifit everyone. Just answering him in exactly same 'friendly' manner. Loonie: please... it got boring about a year ago 1 Right, I apologize for the asterisks and imperative but i thinked they were more effective than: may i suggest that etc
2 Mappers can do what they want, of course, they can experiment what they like, but i still think that the core of quake is in that ten considerations. Example, I have played a map called mexx4. It's simple, small, bare, no new textures, no new critters, no great arch. etc. but it's was more fun for me than other beefed up maps, because it was closer to quake's core IMHO. Frankly i can't understand why putting new stuff if you lose the basic, why adding a lot of extra and then you have a map that is like the binary of a train @go to map yourself Yes, i can understand P.S. I loved the E4M4 Quoth remake, thank you very much for that replies should be posted in GA or appropriate sticky thread :)
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