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/me Votes For Noclipped Screenshots 
 
I Used To Vote For 'noclip' Screenshots 
Then I got a job, and reliezed how shitty and unrealistic they make my work, and wish only to have actual gameplay represented by screenshots, rather than 'marketting'. 
MIke: 
you forgot to respond to my final point, which is that true-to-gameplay screenshots can still be misleading. 
Metlslime 
No, I didn't forget. 
maybe i'm missing the point here, but screenshots should be taken in whichever way looks the best and makes for a nice picture...

who cares if it's noclipped to an unreachable location on from a PoV of the player? 
Screenshots 
Shambler pretty much wrote what I was thinking - that the purpose is often to try to cram in as many interesting bits as possible in order to try to sum up something that can not accurately be described in one image. 
ALL Screenshots Are Pointless And Unrepresentative Of The Game. 
the only way you should sell a game is from extended video footage of actual gameplay.

Yeah. I went there. 
Well 
do screenshots taken from areas reachable by means of (quad)rocketjumping act as gameplay screenshots? 
Mike: 
1. true-to-gameplay screenshots can be just as misleading as noclip screenshots

2. noclip screenshots can can be just as useful and informative as true-to-gameplay shots

3. therefore, noclip shots are not pointless or useless at all. They are just as good as the other kind for previewing a level prior to downloading.

Since you agree with #1 and don't make any comment against #2, why don't you agree with #3? 
Er... 
Since you agree with #1 and don't make any comment against #2

Should read:

Since you agree with #2 and don't make any comment against #1 
Also: 
jesus christ that was a good vindaloo

nice to be back 
Extended Video Footage Of Actual Gameplay Is Pointless And 
unrepresentative of the game. After all, whoever is playing isn't playing exactly like you will, are they?

Seriously, noclip screenshots are not a problem. Deception and/or misrepresentation is a problem. This doesn't seem complicated. 
Speaking Of Deception... 
Have you ever been dissapointed becuase the name of a level is too good compared to the level itself?

I remember thinking "The Soul Grinder" must be some awesome, mythological machine buried at the heart of the level. Turns out it was just a bunch of rooms with monsters in it.

I once named a level "Concourse" becuase i figured that name's blandness matched the blandness of the level itself. 
Re: Speaking Of Deception 
I once named a level "Penile Devastation" and it had a giant penis in it, so I hope no one was disappointed.

Also, I once named a level "s4wk" but some people seem to think it's actually pretty good. 
Metl 
I know I was severely disappointed when I played godfun.bsp and it was neither god nor fun. 
Blitz 
You misread; that was supposed to be GodfUn.bsp, and it WAS both godf and un. 
Pjw 
i guess i failed at sarcasm then :( 
Kinn 
I knew you were joking. I was too (at least before the "seriously").
Maybe we both failed? :) 
This Entire Discussion Is Pointless 
Everyone will continue to take screenshots how they want and name maps with titles better than the actual map. 
 
(er, that post was directed at one-upping Kinn/PJW) 
Your Mom 
is pointless. 
 
I knew you were joking. I was too

hey I knew that :}

(/me glances nervously from side to side) 
Yo 
I'm on my Wii. I'm using the trial internet channel to type this. Gotta get my Wii address thing. Neat. 
 
8151-7592-5705-4800 so add me as your wii friend!!!11111111 
8430964343476210 
hook it up wii boys 
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