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Idbase Or Runic: Which Is The Better Set?

Posted by Scampie on 2003/10/25 12:53:22

Here it is, the thread you've all been waiting for! The line in the sand has been drawn and sides are being chosen!

In this corner, weighting in at an impressive 5,000 pounds of pure metal, concrete and dohickies, the reigning champion of the world, it's IDBASE!

And it's challenger, sporting the blue and brown trunks, covered in arcane symbols, the master of darkness and evil, the RUNIC set!

Which will prevail as the top dog? Which is the better set for Quake maps? Why should mapper's choose one set over the other? Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!?

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RE: I Like All Types Of Maps... Unless They Have Tarbabies.

#101 posted by quaketree on 2013/10/09 01:43:57

The problem with Tarbabies aren't what they do but how they do it. Terribly over powered and almost impossible to kill without some serious health\armor and weaponry (along with some serious skills).

In my opinion id screwed up by even putting them in there as they were. Their blast hit is overpowered, their touch hit is overpowered, their movement speed is overpowered and ignores basic physics to the point of unbelievability (even for the Quake universe). Cut any two of those in half and they probably would be used a lot more but as shipped they are useless for anyone wanting to make a level that people will play.

Tarbabies Quoth

#102 posted by FifthElephant on 2013/10/09 02:08:06

are nerfed a bit aren't they? They creep and slug around and aren't relentless.

I'd love to see a phalanx tarbaby style boss, I think they had one in the beta but it never made it into the final game.

Runic

#103 posted by ijed on 2013/10/09 02:18:17

And tar babies are awesome.

#104 posted by necros on 2013/10/09 04:03:31

not in quoth. i nerfed them in ne_ruins (and all future maps i make, if i ever finish them).

the main problem is that the tarbabies jump ceaselessly even when they aren't really in a position where they should be able to.

the easiest nerf to do to them is to put a cooldown on the next jump after it lands. that alone makes them much more manageable.

but yeah... i don't like idbase so much. idbase + ikbase on the other hand is much more fun. idbase has a lot of large textures that make it hard work with at times.
and of course i love idmetal because of how freeform it is. :)

Dunno

#105 posted by Jaromir83 on 2013/10/09 08:56:04

I made one IDBASE map and one RUNIC

Negke 8===D ~ ~ ~~ Tarbabies

#106 posted by Spirit on 2013/10/09 10:19:08

idbase is ugly, boring and fucking monotone. tarbabies can be fun when used responsibly. use hitscan weapons.

Tarbabies

#107 posted by Shambler on 2013/10/09 14:41:02

Really cool enemy. Yes they can be IMBA but it's up to mappers to use them well, and almost all recent usages I can think of are good and and provide fun, challenging gameplay.

#108 posted by - on 2013/10/09 14:48:57

Rottweilers are the best enemy, which is another point in favor of idbase and against runic!

Rottweilers

#109 posted by FifthElephant on 2013/10/09 15:01:04

are the best enemy? I know I used them a lot in q-deck but I tried to use them in fun ways. Besides, the model is horrifically broken unless you use capnbubs revamped model.
The best enemy is the Ogre IMO, which capnbubs has neglected to revamp (son' bitch gone AWOL!).

I love the deathknights too. I should go make a medieval/runic map or something.

Ur An Ogre

#110 posted by - on 2013/10/09 18:36:54

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