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http://mobile.sheridanc.on.ca/~jonescor/temp/shot_vertexManip.jpg
http://mobile.sheridanc.on.ca/~jonescor/temp/shot_vertexManip2.jpg Thanks. :) Also, I haven't done any of the documentation I said I would do because I was mapping. You have only yourself to blame! Necros you are an unstoppable beast... Really I'm blown away right now.
I was kinda hoping I'd get to crank out the first Trench map but I can't map so much at that pace. I've been testing it for the past few months so I'm pretty proficient with the interface, but this is the first chance I've had to do some serious non-stop mapping that wasn't trying to break anything. :P
I just really love how powerful the vertex manip is. In other editors I would always be careful to do my manip in a way that wouldn't crash the editor or break the brush. In trenchbroom I just grab a vert and move it any old way and it just works. Frogdammit. I do have the latest drivers for that card. In fact I have drivers newer than the last officially released ones for that card. Still made by Geforce but dated in 2005. The laptop is a 2002 model and doesn't support shaders which is why I was going to relegate it to something else. All of the other map editors work fine on it.
Oh well... Can't run. After starting the program I get a message:
http://s017.radikal.ru/i430/1303/e2/4a656ef4b2fb.jpg After pressing a button, the message is displayed again. So many times. Then the program ends Windows 7 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 Series digs, I will add a log file to the next version. For some reason, some of the error dialogs don't show any meaningful information (even though there usually is some). Then we can try to fix this problem.
this looks amazing! I may have to try this mapping lark again. Everyone: Expect lots of newb questions in the near future.
I ran it yesterday, it was sitting in my downloads folder. So I moved it into program files today. When I open it now it instantly crashes. Does it store a config somewhere which I need to delete?
The copy in the old folder still works fine. 2012 was a milestone years for maps, and 2013 is already a milestone year for tools.
Not even a quarter of the way through and we've already given vis times a big punch in the balls with Tyrann's new shizzle, and now this comes along which seems to be taking brush manipulation to a new level. Do you know what I would absolutely love though: The option of using a max/maya-style movement handle with arrows along each axis that you can pull to move in just that axis. The current movement is pretty great, but I find it's sometimes hard to keep it constrained to x or y, and with a max/maya type gizmo, I wouldn't need to keep holding alt to move in z. That said, i've been mucking around making organic rocky stuff with this, and it's just amazing.... We had implemented movement handles at one point, but I found it to be unintuitive. I wanted ppl to be able to just grab objects and move them around. I can add a special mode for move handles, but it feels redundant. Let me think about it, maybe I can come up with a way to restrict movement axes that can be combined with the current approach.
TrenchBroom keeps its config in the registry under
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/TrenchBroom If you delete that entire key, does it work? I can't imagine why it would fail when you move the app, though. i think as an option that you can toggle with a shortcut it would be perfect because there's always situations where you want to yank stuff effortlessly in one axis without worrying about moving it in another.
but it seems that many people are used to what they can do in professional 3D packages. I'll see what I can do.
Trying out a cave wall, I sometimes accidentally push verts off into the distance. Having a gizmo with 3 axis and 3 planes would be really handy at times. (like this: http://www.finalclap.com/ressources/images/3dsmax-tracking6.jpg )
The gizmo is one of those things I often lack in level editors for older games (most newer editors have them). alternatively you could try having cubes for handles, and selecting the y-face on the cube would move on the y-plane, etc... you could have a similar system of bounding boxes when selecting an entire brush. (on a sidenote, in the view tab, having the ability to hide vertex handles on backfaces could be useful) I put it into program files on C:\, but that requires admin login. Moving it to F:\ which is accessible as regular user fixes it...
Hope that makes sense? doesn't work if you are too close to the selection. We discussed that one already.
A lot of the fluidity and speed when doing brush manipulation in TrenchBroom is due to the ability to just click and drag stuff around. This is seriously hampered by gizmos because you have to hit a small part of them to select the correct axis. That's why I would prefer a different option that can be combined with the idea of just clicking anywhere on an object to move it around. And yeah, might be my system.
Also, this is obviously a retard move, but anyway; reproducible crash with the clipper: http://www.spiney.me/files/etc/clipcrash.png It's probably been mentioned before, but I (as a Radiant-lover) would like some kind of 'legacy' control scheme for the editor that mimics Radiant's or (god forbid) WorldCraft's keybindings / camera control.
Other than that, and this can't be said enough, this editor is a serious Godsend.
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