those are 2 of the best. 

ionous: pbrsp1 is at the very least worthy of consideration. I don't think I remember the other map you mention.

Tronyn: Small correction: The Secret Installation is IKSPQ5, not 4. I look forward to your other lists, even though base is my natural preference. 

That is one wonderful "declaration of love" for those maps. Can't wait to see the others. 

At one point I had Hexamoron Phase 1 on the list (sorry NotoriousRAY!) but I had to cut something because there were some maps that I'd forgotten about. I should have remembered to put it in honorable mentions though, heh, as it certainly pwns The Sewage System (id's best base map imo).

I've actually never played Grindcore - Damaul's stuff was mostly before my time (although I did like Suicide Nation) - I'll check it out.

this is part of the point of the article, to generate discussion for a more definitive list or at least "cluster" of top maps in each theme.

I left out non-id themes; I was considering doing an Egyptian/Temple list also, but I ran out of time. 

Though I don't see how would E1M3/4/5 fit into Episode 2.. they definitely have their own unique vibe.

Waiting for the other three lists :) 

grindcore in neh1m3 

I personally think you put the wrong Distrans map in the top 10. His qte2m3 was simply fantastic, unmissable. Ruined Nation was definitely experimental, creative, but an overall inferior map to the Travail one.

Hmm, I don't even remember JJSPQ3. I'm going to replay it.

Well, it was good, an original theme, but this is not in any way, shape or form, a base map. Industrial, yes. I can see why one would be hesitant to categorize further, as that runs the risk of splitting hairs.

While I do like Military Complex better as an overall map, I agree with your placement, as this map is rather revolutionary. Where did you find out who did which maps? I'd be curious to know who the authors were, since I really feel the Hipnotic level designers upstaged the ID ones.

Totally agree about OUM3. I may have been tempted to put this 1. Maybe when Tyrann's new IDbase map is completed, he'll take the spot.

While I don't think Colony is the best base map ever released, it's certainly very high quality, and well deserved to be high on the list. Too bad Glassman hasn't been around in a few years, Markasbruch looked great. Last time I spoke to him, he said he was going to put up a more detailed web site with more information on his future projects. That never materialized, apparently.

Based upon your criteria, wouldn't CZG07a-b qualify as base maps? I would think those deserving of mention. Also of note is Rubincondom (sm82?), which was fantastic, Neg!ke's Aderlass1, Zerstorer's Bunker, and other stuff I'm probably forgetting. 

Thank's a lot for the article. It was very good to read. With your help I have found some very good maps (Colony, Subterranean Siege) that I have played for the first time today. 

more to come, i just posted Tronyns Top 10 Medieval Maps, enjoy.

http://underworld.planetquake.gamespy.com/tronynqexpo08a2.html 

Yes, I'm actually including a 100 brush map on this list. In this map, Hrimfaxi does more with 100 brushes than most mappers do with an unlimited brush count.

It was a one thousand brush contest. 

So seriously is anyone gonna post the maps that we made for the RMX mapping challenge fucking thingy, or should I just post mine somewhere myself.

I mean people were hinting for me just to leave it a couple of weeks ago, saying it would probably be ready for QuakeExpo, but I havent heard a thing from Speeds for months now, and I just dont understand what the fuck it is with this bullshit. I mean if I knew your were gonna be a bunch of fuckign fannys about it then I wouldnt have fucking bothered. OK? Im no fuckign Quake martyr. That aint my fucking bag. I've got a little more on my plate than that, if you know what I mean. If I want to get off I fuck.

If no cunt is gonna even tell me what the fuck is going on then what the fuck am I supposed to think?

If no-one's gonna bother posting them then I'll do it. send me the files and I'll knock up a page.

If not I'll repeatedly post ftp links on GA, and continually try to post as a news thread. So-help-me-god.

Meh 

I didnt spend hours making a map so I could be told off for trying to distribute it.

Dont wanna help me - FINE! Fuck you then. See you later 

well done. You fucked me. 

Well it looks like I missed quite a few things on the base list, and I'm sure I'll be finding out what I neglected on the new list. It's true that JJSPQ3 isn't really a base, I maybe should have considered it too different for inclusion. I don't know who did all of the hipnotic maps, but I know Levelord did hip1m3 since he did an interview back in the day where he referred to how one only had to be "a god, a very humble god" to make a map like that.

I don't think the Zer bunker is good enough to be on the list; however CZG07b is one I forgot that's certainly good enough.

Thanks for the corrections/additions so far.

& yeah it's too bad we didn't get any more Glassman maps. 

Sounds like you have high standards. Quake needs people like you. 

in case people missed it, the video on this page is cool:

http://qexpo.tastyspleen.net/booth.php?id=124&page=260

Totally looks as if DM6 was ported to the Super Metroid engine. 

Send it to metlslime, you whiny cunt. 

i have three maps:

e2m1rmx_spirit
e4m1rmx (ricky)
e4m7rmx (not sure who submitted it, no txt file)

as far as i know this is all the completed submissions. lunaran also has all three, i think. I think we both agree we should just pack it up and release it during the expo... we haven't heard from speedy in a long time. 

i appreciate that. 

should be Zwiffle's. 

Azure Apathy is indeed my map. 

The problems of dealing with people who're on different schedules, and busy. 

ya as soon as i saw the rockets i wanted to play a bit of metroid, too bad me gameboy broke about maybe 6 yrs ago, cos the first person view isent as cool [ well it is but havent play side scroll met in long time :P ] 

in addition to three reviews (including the Lizard's Trance).

Looking forward to the other remixes. 

I am not quite sure whether you forgot or actually completely hated the map for some reason, but I am quite puzzled why neither Apinaraivo / Monkey Rage nor it's DM version Enraged made it into the base top10 list. Oh well.