Crashes Using 3 Point Clipping
#80 posted by scar3crow on 2013/03/02 21:48:38
Still trying to work out repro steps, but it has crashed each time I've tried to do any 3 point clipping. Might have to do clipping in multiple separate steps. I'll let you know if I find anything more specific. FYI, I've not had any of the problems others have in this thread so far (Win7-64bit, Radeon HD6850).
Oh And
#81 posted by scar3crow on 2013/03/02 21:49:18
This is with 1.0.2 and 1.0.1.
Scarecrow
Thanks for trying. I'm thinking it must be something with the renderer.
Wow
#83 posted by necros on 2013/03/03 00:44:46
Never realized you could split multiple edges at once if they share the same place.
Select two brushes that share a pair of vertex positions, double click the edge between those two and you split both edges at once AND the new vertices move as one.
I love this editor. ^_^
Mandatory *tips Hat To SleepwalkR"
#84 posted by Baker on 2013/03/03 01:29:51
I hope this editor evolves to become "the standard Q1 editor".
Knowing how 10 minute ideas can at times take 2-days to reduce to code, and the sheer number of them, there are 53 different ways this is quite awesome.
Congratulations! Shall we all be fortunate enough to see more monumental acts of defiance against odds in the future.
I Wouldn't Have Even Attempted This Without It
#85 posted by necros on 2013/03/03 02:15:29
http://mobile.sheridanc.on.ca/~jonescor/temp/shot_vertexManip.jpg
http://mobile.sheridanc.on.ca/~jonescor/temp/shot_vertexManip2.jpg
Thanks. :)
Also, I haven't done any of the documentation I said I would do because I was mapping. You have only yourself to blame!
Necros you are an unstoppable beast... Really I'm blown away right now.
I was kinda hoping I'd get to crank out the first Trench map but I can't map so much at that pace.
#87 posted by necros on 2013/03/03 03:07:03
I've been testing it for the past few months so I'm pretty proficient with the interface, but this is the first chance I've had to do some serious non-stop mapping that wasn't trying to break anything. :P
I just really love how powerful the vertex manip is. In other editors I would always be careful to do my manip in a way that wouldn't crash the editor or break the brush. In trenchbroom I just grab a vert and move it any old way and it just works.
Drivers
#88 posted by quaketree on 2013/03/03 05:38:21
Frogdammit. I do have the latest drivers for that card. In fact I have drivers newer than the last officially released ones for that card. Still made by Geforce but dated in 2005. The laptop is a 2002 model and doesn't support shaders which is why I was going to relegate it to something else. All of the other map editors work fine on it.
Oh well...
QuakeTree
Sorry, but TB requires shaders. I'll add minimum system requirements to the website.
#90 posted by digs on 2013/03/03 07:59:35
Can't run. After starting the program I get a message:
http://s017.radikal.ru/i430/1303/e2/4a656ef4b2fb.jpg
After pressing a button, the message is displayed again. So many times. Then the program ends
Windows 7
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 Series
It Needs A Log File
digs, I will add a log file to the next version. For some reason, some of the error dialogs don't show any meaningful information (even though there usually is some). Then we can try to fix this problem.
God Damn
#92 posted by starbuck on 2013/03/03 12:46:40
this looks amazing! I may have to try this mapping lark again. Everyone: Expect lots of newb questions in the near future.
Crash After Moving Program Dir (win7)
#93 posted by Spiney on 2013/03/03 13:40:58
I ran it yesterday, it was sitting in my downloads folder. So I moved it into program files today. When I open it now it instantly crashes. Does it store a config somewhere which I need to delete?
The copy in the old folder still works fine.
It Seems
#94 posted by Kinn on 2013/03/03 14:05:25
2012 was a milestone years for maps, and 2013 is already a milestone year for tools.
Not even a quarter of the way through and we've already given vis times a big punch in the balls with Tyrann's new shizzle, and now this comes along which seems to be taking brush manipulation to a new level.
Do you know what I would absolutely love though:
The option of using a max/maya-style movement handle with arrows along each axis that you can pull to move in just that axis. The current movement is pretty great, but I find it's sometimes hard to keep it constrained to x or y, and with a max/maya type gizmo, I wouldn't need to keep holding alt to move in z.
That said, i've been mucking around making organic rocky stuff with this, and it's just amazing....
Make That "g" For Gizmo
#95 posted by Spiney on 2013/03/03 14:07:32
Kinn
We had implemented movement handles at one point, but I found it to be unintuitive. I wanted ppl to be able to just grab objects and move them around. I can add a special mode for move handles, but it feels redundant. Let me think about it, maybe I can come up with a way to restrict movement axes that can be combined with the current approach.
Spiney
TrenchBroom keeps its config in the registry under
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/TrenchBroom
If you delete that entire key, does it work? I can't imagine why it would fail when you move the app, though.
Yeah
#98 posted by Kinn on 2013/03/03 14:23:22
i think as an option that you can toggle with a shortcut it would be perfect because there's always situations where you want to yank stuff effortlessly in one axis without worrying about moving it in another.
I Never Needed That
but it seems that many people are used to what they can do in professional 3D packages. I'll see what I can do.
About The Gizmo
#100 posted by Spiney on 2013/03/03 14:46:50
Trying out a cave wall, I sometimes accidentally push verts off into the distance. Having a gizmo with 3 axis and 3 planes would be really handy at times. (like this: http://www.finalclap.com/ressources/images/3dsmax-tracking6.jpg )
The gizmo is one of those things I often lack in level editors for older games (most newer editors have them).
alternatively you could try having cubes for handles, and selecting the y-face on the cube would move on the y-plane, etc... you could have a similar system of bounding boxes when selecting an entire brush.
(on a sidenote, in the view tab, having the ability to hide vertex handles on backfaces could be useful)
Seems It Has To Do With User Rights Management
#101 posted by Spiney on 2013/03/03 14:54:35
I put it into program files on C:\, but that requires admin login. Moving it to F:\ which is accessible as regular user fixes it...
Hope that makes sense?
Using The Bounding Boxes For Axis Selection
doesn't work if you are too close to the selection. We discussed that one already.
A lot of the fluidity and speed when doing brush manipulation in TrenchBroom is due to the ability to just click and drag stuff around. This is seriously hampered by gizmos because you have to hit a small part of them to select the correct axis. That's why I would prefer a different option that can be combined with the idea of just clicking anywhere on an object to move it around.
Spiney
Never seen this problem, so I guess it's something with your system?
Woot
#104 posted by necros on 2013/03/03 15:02:07
Looks like insurer my gizmo back!
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