You guys are great at parties aren't you? 

It's just reality. I mean, id hasn't done a kick ass game in quite a long time. RAGE was good but that was about it .. good. They haven't done great in ages. 

Id hasn't done a good game since Doom 3. Rage sucked. There's no reason to have faith in it. However, I do feel it's populair to hate on it regardless of quality or not. 

Fuck if its popular or not to hate on sub par shit produced by studios that have no fucking valid excuse for it. Mediocrity from professionals should be shit on 

I played Rage and Doom 3 both for just the second time last month. I would say that the games are too different to call one better than the other.

However, Rage was probably more fun the second time around than the first. On the other hand, Doom 3 was almost too annoying to play.

The Doom 3 lighting is very hard on the eyes, really fatiguing, and I was sick and tired of randomly spawning monsters by the third level.

I mean really, how did that imp know to be waiting behind that wall for me to walk past? Did they build the base around it? Jeez.

As far as Doom 4, I have not got much hope. 

For me, it comes down to looking for signs that a developer understands their own franchise. The moment I saw stylized execution animations, I knew that whatever remains of id does not. 

Rage would've been great if it was less ambitious.

Cut all the minigames, half of the sidequests, most of the talking and anything else that gets in the way of the action, and Rage becomes a great game.

Same for Doom 3. Resurrection of Evil is what Doom 3 should have been.

FPS developers should let the overambitious cinematic inventory-management projects to the indie MMORPG crowd, and focus on adrenaline-fueled acrobatic visceral heart-pumping action & navigation. In my humble opinion� 

what mankrip said is true. The combat is fun. But in the case of Doom 3, it's not. It's just no fun. 

I've played Doom 3 and Rage end-to-end twice, which is more times than I've done for most SP games. They aren't great games, but there's a reliable core of good shooting in there that I can kind of happily chug along with, once I've tuned in to how the game works/feels.

I don't have super high expectations for Doom 4 but I do think it's premature and kind of wet-blanket-y just to rage about how bad it is destined to be. 

I recently played through Lost Missions for Doom 3 and it was a chore. Rage has far better gameplay and is a bit overlooked. Oh well. 

I remember liking Rage for what it was. I wasn't expecting the 2nd coming of Doom, but several levels were very well designed and the monster design felt solid all the way through. The tech was/is a huge disappointment, and the ending was terrible. But the core of the game was promising. 

 

Sounds like some of you just want a doom 2 clone. Random levels that have no purpose and feel like video game levels, constantly pressing buttons to open doors which makes no sense in real life, hordes of monsters, no story, no purpose, no upgrades or character progression other than picking up a new weapon.

I don't think the consolers or the critics would like that. 

That's an unfortunate interpretation. 

Why does it have to "make sense in real life"? 

Actually, I'm pretty tired of the endless remaking of Doom. What I'd really like is a good modern remake/reimagination of the original Quake. Something like what was done with Tomb Raider 2013. Wishful thinking probably. Nobody would agree on what it should be like anyway. 

Doom2's level design is regarded as definitively weaker than in 1, the worst being those city levels which are the literal definition of "where the FUCK do I go" 

I was skeptic too. But the more I see, the less skeptic I�m becoming. The E3 reveal was great. They gave us what we wanted (as in MP and an Editor). Now, the alpha test wasn�t terrible but gameplay is too slow and loadouts don�t work in an arena setup. I played for hours and everybody was just spamming rockets. Nothing else. Modifiers can change that though.

The SP reveal was slow. But I�ve read several previews, spoken with people who played it and they all confirm it�s actually really fast paced. The finishers take only � seconds and don�t interrupt the flow, you can still switch weapons without the cirkel menu and the cirkel menu is actually welcome due to the short pause in all the chaos.

The levels are bigger, less cramped, have lots of verticality. No regen, no cover, just all out warfare. Collecting keys like in the old days, lots of secrets, different routes, etc. Also, 3 distinct styles (Industry, Labs/offices and Hell).

If they release an SDK as well, I really do think it has potential. 

I want to see a single-player gameplay video played with keyboard & mouse, and focused on the puzzles.

So far the only puzzle I've seen is the hologram playback one.

Classic Doom was full of puzzles that affected the level layout in diverse ways. Raising bridges, lowering floors, creating caves� There was a lot more than just opening doors. And such puzzles often had parts scattered across large portions of the level, encouraging fast-paced navigation and exploration.

Heck, I'm pretty much describing the kinds of Quake maps made by people here. :-) 

I was reading the thread on Blue's News about Windows 10 and I think I've noticed some parallels between the comments there and the comments here. Some might say that our generation is cynical and hard to please, but to me all we are really doing is saying if it ain't broke don't fix it. Particularly, DO NOT, introduce compromising, invasive, dumbed-down, annoying "features" in an effort to get more money. Innovation isn't bad in of itself - it's innovations that are directly bad for users and transparently motivated by corporate greed, that are bad. 

 

Yeah, I'm liking it so far. One or two small nitpicks but nothing that would stop me from using it. 

In my opinion Windows 10 is nothing less than spyware. I see absolutely no reason to use it. I've been replacing it with Linux at every opportunity. 

Linux? I can understand not using Windows 10 but you don't have to punch yourself in the nuts at the same time. That's just mean. 

Windows 10 is generally a decent piece of software but the amount of spying is pretty insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVzc5wK2-pc