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Left 4 Dead 2
Most forums threads on this are pointless flame shit.

Not that I'm not expecting that here, but it'd be nice to hear some opinions anyway.

I'm enjoying the demo quite a bit - despite the shortness. The variety in just about everything is refreshing, as is killing a witch with a guitar to the back of the head.

My general impressions:

Tier 1 weapons are pretty lame, but they always were. At least now they feel more unique and suited to particular purposes.

Tier 2 weapons are great, without exception. The Spas auto shot is a laugh, even though it doesn't feel as powerful as the L4D1 version.

The changes to throwable weapons are pretty good overall - the pipebomb having a shorter range and the bilebomb outperforming it in the 'horde summoner' category being a decent modification.

Melee is dangerously fun - brawling typically gets you shot up by your team-mates. Kind of dissapointing that it doesn't seem possible to time a 'perfect strike' ie. 'Dead Stop' on a Charger. The big problem with the melee is the camera. Despite the HUD warning it's very easy (thanks to the blood all over the screen) to not know where your attacker is. It should be third person cam I feel.

The Jockey is great, his supposed ability to leap from survivor to survivor will cause havoc in versus.

The Spitter seems more at home in the enclosed areas of L4D1, but its only a map and a half in the demo, so we'll see. She also has the potential to be very nasty in Versus.

The wandering witch is ok I spose. Really I'd have liked to see a completely new non-playable, whilst keeping the original witch. Will be interesting to see if day/night affects how the witches behave.

The Charger is great - I wouldn't change anything, except maybe how light the ragdoll seems when he's killed. He often floats towards the team when killed in mid charge.

The various reskins to the original SI are businesslike. It'd be nice to see some proper reskins as well though, not just modifications /re-imaginings of the original meshes. Might cause some confusion but I doubt it - they each move in a very specific way.

The new health systems are generally welcome, although defib seems a bit pointless. The Adrenaline is much more tactical than the pills and very useful for the new style crescendo event.

AI Director2 seems pretty functional, although the demo maps don't seem to show it's ability to mix stuff up so much, although we have ended up wandering around in circles (in a good/terrifying way) a couple of times.

[Edited cos most people are playing the full now]
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Specials tend to be more human (sneaky) now, but also just as retarded as you'd expect a bot to be. Often they're in the safe room attacking the invincible door when you arrive. Suppose its nice to have a hobby.

Haven't played versus yet, but the charger promises to be one of the most frustrating, just because theres the possiblity of chucking people into the water - but odds on you'll never get close enough.

It's impossibe to hit a Jockey in mid leap with melee, even shove. Hunter as well - all you can do is Shambler dance out of range then move back in with a shove and then knock the undead out of em. 
Chargeeeeeeeeeeee 
I played a game of versus tonight with some dear friends, and on the first level of Dead Centre we had not one, but two people charged off the edge of the building as we climbed around fires. You'd think the second person would have learnt... 
Charger 
Yes it's quite easy to get some instant-kill going with the charger if you know what you're doing. On the first map of the Parish (the one from the demo), at the very start, you can run up to them as they turn off the passageway, and charge one or 2 guys straight into the water.
Same thing on the rollercoaster part of Dark Carnival, not to mention the Parish final on the bridge...

I'm not sure if this is necessarily a bad thing, people should know about it... At least they fixed the charger bug today where it could get a survivor stuck in the scenery. 
Would Not Be Surprised 
if they change the charger so it only hits a survivor enough that they need to be helped up off the edge. Even this is still highly beneficial once you have the other 3 special infected jump into the fray.

Another great spot to insta-kill though is top floor of the sugar refinery in hard rain as survivors are either waiting for the elevator , or just getting off it.

It's one of those ways to die that only happens once though, then you learn to expect it. 
Would Not Be Surprised 
if they change the charger so it only hits a survivor enough that they need to be helped up off the edge. Even this is still highly beneficial once you have the other 3 special infected jump into the fray.

Another great spot to insta-kill though is top floor of the sugar refinery in hard rain as survivors are either waiting for the elevator , or just getting off it.

It's one of those ways to die that only happens once though, then you learn to expect it. 
Well... 
...sort of finished the game last night. I say sort of because I didn't actually make it to the chopper alive (got carried away killing things) but Negke did so the survivors escaped if not survived ;). All very cool stuff, I like the last episode...

Shouts out to:

Bal - for being patient and rescuing me a lot.
Biff - for being a real life Ellis when he's on the mike.
czg - for being surprisingly generous in coop and not setting tooooo many car alarms off.
Daz
negke
Rebb - for some good survival skillz.

Anyone else I played with and forgot.

More soon eh! 
Now... 
Expert! :D 
 
I tried expert on Swamp Fever the other day with some friends. We barely got past that little river pulley before getting murdered all 5 times. Tough shit. 
Fun Game Yesterday 
I wonder who's the bigger threat on expert though, the infected or Shambler... 
Oi! 
My friendly fire isn't malicious, it's well-intentioned, I'm trying to cover you guys :S 
Can I Join The Func_ Steam Group? 
I would love to take part in some left 4 dead 2! My steamid is ewasylishen at gmail.com 
Get On #tf 
Quite a few people lurking on there and up for a game... 
They Robbed Me 
Of Little Rocket Man, but now I have their Guardin Gnome achievement.

Fuck yeah. 
Shambler 
'I was trying to help!'

What's the road to hell paved with again?

Shamb's team mates brought down by FF? 
Hey 
It provides a nice springy surface to stroll along... 
Smooth As Well 
All the different sized special infected would be too lumpy.

I should join a game but can never promise when I'll be able to connect for a full campaign cycle. 
Try Scavenge Then 
It's kind of like a mini-Versus. A 5-round match usually takes no longer than 30 minutes. 
Expert 
Haven't tried it with a proper team yet. It's pretty tough as, for example, a single blow from a common infected already costs you 20 health. Still, I was able to get through the first two maps of Dead Center without larger problems in SP. So anyone here care for a try? 
 
I played with some friends on Swamp Fever on expert. We never beat the level, we could barely cross the river. TOO HARD! 
But 
I tend to connect, start a game, then have to go change a nappy.

Never liked Expert to be honest - too frustrating to keep retrying.

Usually play on advanced, which seems to be a decent balence between danger and fun. A tank can still finish a good team if it gets lucky, on normal they're a joke. 
Woo. 
Cool 
But they better not charge for it.

Re: expert - seeing how failed miserably on advanced yesterday, I suppose more a little more practicing is due. 
Err Words 
I guess expert probably requires at least two Bals per team. I must have been lucky with the bots that day ("without larger problems" isn't right - I was close to death a couple of times, and if it wasn't for the bots crazy aim and lots of dumb luck, I wouldn't have made it half the way). 
Hmm 
Just read the comments on that shack article.

Apparently white people are more 'loveable' than blacks... 
Hmm 
I just want Zoey back. The Zoey skin mod was awesome. I know I wont feel the same way about Rochelle.

People of her consistency are not attractive IMO.


I know, I know. Never read internet comments, but god dyamn 
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