Hey JPL
#76 posted by HeadThump on 2008/10/12 11:11:33
this is a pretty good site to keep up with the daily horse race of the election and more importantly the House and Senate races:
http://www.electoral-vote.com
It is ran by two guys, one is a Republican operative the other a Democrat so you can expect a fair balance.
Just A Guide
#77 posted by HeadThump on 2008/10/12 11:19:19
each state is portioned a number of electoral points based on the number of members they have in Congress. That is determined by the population in the states calculated every ten years using the Census; the number of points needed to win I believe for this cycle is 277. Looking at today's map, Obama has 343 and McCain has 184. That may overstate the odds quite a bit as a 3 or 4 percentage point change in as little as 6 states can switch those positions, but still those are some huge odds to work with.
HT
#78 posted by JPL on 2008/10/12 12:11:57
Thanks for the website, and thanks for the guidance.
As far as I understood, the US president is not directly elected by US people, but rather "super-voters" (as we name then in France for our senators). I was aware of that point, but not about how complex the calculation is, according to the website...
Well, there is also a factor that is not "officially" taken into account here: the "racial" factor... What would happen at the last minute before voting if voters say: "wtf, a nigger in the white house ! Forget it"....
Well, I think this will be one of the key factor in this election, and as of today nobody knows how it will impact the election, and also how many people will change their mind at the last minute.... nobody want to be tagged as a racist ;)
#79 posted by Spirit on 2008/10/12 12:40:28
nobody want to be tagged as a racist
I wouldn't be too sure about that.
Obama has been named Osama on the voting notes in some NY district or something, go figure. Well, it will be interesting if anything changes in the US foreign affairs, if at all.
Hmm
#80 posted by nonentity on 2008/10/12 13:43:02
Obama has been named Osama on the voting notes in some NY district or something, go figure
Good thing that NY is a democrat safety then, if they did that in a swing state it might actually change that. (Although I don't think he did him self any favours making the ticket Obama Bi[n la]den).
And McCain's support of him after the arab comment was mirrored (publically at least) by Obama in respect to his war service [ http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4998X420081012?pageNumber=2 skip first 2 paragraphs], it's a combination of basic politeness and trying to appear positive in their campaigns (positive as in the opposite of negative advertising).
Hmm
#81 posted by nonentity on 2008/10/12 13:43:38
*change things
There are probably others. My head stings slightly...
I Do Wonder
#82 posted by bamb on 2008/10/12 14:11:15
how much in control of their campaigns and all the mud slinging those guys really are anymore? They might have gotten quite sick of the "culture war" already.
The opposing side is portrayed as such a devil and the US seems very divided.
I don't know if any policies will change much if either is elected.
Chomsky
#83 posted by megaman on 2008/10/12 14:20:43
says it's basically a one-party system.
"one-party" System
#84 posted by JPL on 2008/10/12 14:28:10
Well, it is not obvious for us european people, but it seems that in between Democrats and republicans, there are not that much differences... the only visible difference for us is War in Irak :P
Any others ?
Addendum..
#85 posted by JPL on 2008/10/12 14:31:28
When I say "War in Irak", it is bcause McCain want to satay there, when Obama wants to leave... but I guess it is more complex than that :P
Hmm
#86 posted by nonentity on 2008/10/12 15:19:56
I prefer Hicks; "puppet on the left hand, puppet on the right hand". But same principle as Chomsky's view
Nonentity
#87 posted by JPL on 2008/10/12 16:03:16
Dunno... Maybe there are more subtelties... though... :P
There Are Differences...
#88 posted by metlslime on 2008/10/12 22:59:59
but the presidential candidates are usually pretty centrist compared to their parties, so they can also grab votes from the middle.
I Think
#89 posted by PuLSaR on 2008/10/13 04:56:09
Every president in every country must be centrist during the campaign to grab most of votes
Or
#90 posted by JPL on 2008/10/13 08:26:27
... the biggest liar ever ;)
You Have To Vote For One Of Us
#91 posted by Lunaran on 2008/10/13 15:34:52
It's a TWO PARTY SYSTEM
I Don't HAVE To Vote For Any Of Them
#92 posted by JPL on 2008/10/13 20:25:31
.. I'm french :P
Vote For Scampie
#93 posted by - on 2008/10/14 00:02:27
Lol
#94 posted by JPL on 2008/10/14 09:44:12
...
#95 posted by gb on 2008/10/14 10:23:51
US goes into Iraq - chaos ensues
US leaves Iraq - REAL chaos ensues
I sure hope they don't let Turkey into the EU, because then WE will have THEIR shit on our hands.
I also would like to see which oil drills are owned by what kind of people afterwards, and what the deals are
:-/
the suckage won't stop after they have a new president... problems may come slower or faster for us, that's all.
It's Getting Surreal Over There
#96 posted by ehh on 2008/11/01 21:26:28
This could be from the Onion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mopkn0lPzM8
Both the material and the ad...
BARAKA WINS
#97 posted by Tronyn on 2008/11/05 06:11:39
FATALITY
So good to see America's hordes of unwashed mindless protestant evangelicals getting their stupid retarded creationist asses hand to them.
Although...
#98 posted by Drew on 2008/11/05 07:31:43
Obama is a Protestant christian.
Obama... And What Else ?
#99 posted by JPL on 2008/11/05 09:18:16
I'm now very curious to see the real effect of this change...
What past shown us is that between Republicans and Democrats, the difference is very small.. or maybe I'm not enough informed to see the differences in between the 2 parts...
Anyway, wait and see for the effects and results...
What The Past Shows Us...
#100 posted by Fern on 2008/11/06 14:06:20
What past shown us is that between Republicans and Democrats, the difference is very small.. or maybe I'm not enough informed to see the differences in between the 2 parts...
Actually what the past shows us is that when the difference between Republican and Democrat CANDIDATES is very small, the Democrats always win.
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