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Spiked Quakespasm Modding/Coding Help Thread

Posted by Baker on 2016/09/15 01:41:20

Thread for figuring out all the new particle and modding features in the "Spiked" version of Quakespasm.
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Actual QSS engine download:
http://triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

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Tutorial on how to enable rain and snow on the Quake start map:

1. Video of snow: https://youtu.be/DvqxsJChXH0
2. Video of rain: https://youtu.be/NRud8T88tDc

Steps:

1. Put this start.ent download in c:/Quake/id1/maps folder. Tells it what textures emit snow and rain.

2. Put this weather.cfg download in c:/Quake/id1/particles folder. Indicates spawn information on particles and how they behave.

3. Enter r_particledesc "weather classic"; map start in the console. I assume "weather" is the name of cfg. Also seems to work with just r_particledesc "weather".

Stuff:

Q: How do you find out the name of textures?

With Quakespasm I don't know that you can, but in Mark V just type "tool_texturepointer 1" in the console and look at a surface and it displays the name of any texture you look at on-screen. screenshot

Q: How is the external ent file made and what does it need?

Open up Mark V and type "map start". Now just type "copy ents" and the entities for the entire map is on the clipboard. Open a text editor and paste. Save it as c:/Quake/id1/maps/start.ent

The first few lines of the file look like this, add the 2 bolded lines that tell the particle system that the texture names are "sky1" for snow and "wizwood1_8" for rain.

{
"sounds" "4"
"classname" "worldspawn"
"wad" "gfx/start.wad"
"_texpart_sky1" "weather.tex_skysnow"
"_texpart_wizwood1_8" "weather.tex_skyrain
"message" "Introduction"
"worldtype" "0"
}

A devkit is also available HERE http://fte.triptohell.info/moodles/qss/QSS_DevKit.zip with source code examples of how to create your own custom HUD using CSQC. The examples show CSQC recreations of the classic HUD as well as variations for the missionpacks and should serve as a good starting point for your own creations. There's a few other goodies in there too (e.g. particle stuff), so check the readme inside the devkit.

Discord
There's now an official Discord for FTE and QSS, find it here: https://discord.gg/E6fTcgB3ev

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Alpha Masked Model Support - How They Work

#1 posted by Baker on 2016/09/15 02:14:58

Alpha masked models are supported --- texture transparency for trees, brushy stuff, etc.

Screenshot

See it in action in Quakespasm "Spiked" by downloading this mod and extracting to c:/Quake/alpha_mask.

Start Quakespasm and do "game alpha_mask; map start" and look at the lavaball in the HARD hall way.

This is how they work:

1. You'll need QME 3.1 to set the flag. Download QME 3.1 shareware

2. The flag is 0x4000 (same as Hexen 2). Here are screenshots:

QME 3.1 - Model view - screenshot
QME 3.1 - Model menu - screenshot
QME 3.1 - Flags Panel - screenshot

Holy Crap

#2 posted by Qmaster on 2016/09/15 04:14:21

Holy Crap
Holy Crap this is awesome. All the cool stuff of Darkplaces but still twisty water.

#3 posted by killpixel on 2016/09/15 04:23:13

This is all very cool. Thank you spike.

And Baker For Putting This Help Together

#4 posted by Qmaster on 2016/09/15 04:36:54

Great Stuff

#5 posted by mankrip on 2016/09/15 05:01:46

Any chance of implementing lit water in this? It would be a huge incentive for mappers.

+1 For Lit Water

#6 posted by Kinn on 2016/09/15 10:06:01

Woo

#7 posted by mjb on 2016/09/15 11:49:41

Thank you so much Baker for your effort to show examples, this is very easy to follow.

-If someone not using QS-spike attempted to play a map that had weather enabled via the worldspawn key option, would they just not see the effects or would they receive console spam/errors?

Anyway, this is completely amazing to see these type of effects in my favorite engine!

#8 posted by Baker on 2016/09/15 12:49:03

Just no effects. No console print or anything.

Playing Around With Weather. Pretty Awesome

#9 posted by Kinn on 2016/09/15 13:22:35

So, I've made a new snow particle texture (tga only yes?). Where do I put this tga?

Is there documentation for the FTE particle system? (I assume it works basically the same as this?)

So This Is Interesting :)

#10 posted by stevenaaus on 2016/09/15 13:41:58

but um, probably not desirable to inline as a blob.

One idea is - would Spike/others be interested in uploading vaguely stable versions (as tarballs with a readme.txt) to this directory ?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/quakespasm/files/Community/
and we can link/document it in some form ?

If so, pls create a sourceforge account and i will add you to the project and you can upload to this directory.

This would probably be easier for everyone than the alternative; preparing patches and chatting to Eric and Oz about committing single features to main. Cheers

Ok I Just Figured It Out Myself

#11 posted by Kinn on 2016/09/15 18:02:54

so if I have image bensnow.tga, i can dump it in the particles folder, then enable it by using

texture "particles/bensnow" in the definition in weather.cfg

I Can't Wait To Play Your Yellow Snow Adventure Kinn

#12 posted by czg on 2016/09/15 19:08:36

Czg I Thought You Were More Into Golden Showers?

#13 posted by Kinn on 2016/09/15 19:55:05

You Know, One Leads To The Other

#14 posted by czg on 2016/09/15 20:27:29

Another Question

#15 posted by Kinn on 2016/09/15 21:36:50

I can't immediately tell from the documentation:

Let's say I wanted 4 different rain settings for the same bit of sky (off, light, medium, heavy) - I assume I'd need to create a separate particle definition for light, medium and heavy. Can I disable/enable particle emission from the sky texture, mid-game, via QC? Can I change which particle definition the sky texture uses mid-game, via the QC?

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