But another question, hehe... sorry :(

I think this is a side effect/limitation of the QCat play here, but items or brushwork inside the "water" don't have, hrmm how to say this... correct perspective? Does that make sense. They just look strange.

I've seen this before but can't remember what it was. 

I think it's a limitation of the QC; if you run it in an engine that has the swirl effect underwater like winquake, you don't get that with func_water, you only get the screen tint. I dunno if func_water is messing with the fov cvar or something? 

more of an engine limitation in that the vanilla engine doesn't bother to check submodels for pointcontents, both in the physics+qc builtin as well as clientside too.
(you also need a qbsp that doesn't claim water to be solid, along with generating inwards faces.)

one of the ladders mods has something like 3 different glitches relating to said mod's ladders (breaks at certain framerates, leaves players stuck in walls, etc.
so watch out for that. 

Is there any risk in using the 0.15.9 light binary with the rest of the 0.15.10 release? I've posted screenshots on the mapping help thread and github showing my reasons why.

Having all the qbsp improvements from 0.15.10 would be nice, after all... especially the func_detail fixes. 

The only problems would be stuff like: func_detail_illusionary will always cast shadows, and func_detail_wall would cause lighting issues if it's covering world geometry.

I would go for it; the func_detail fix in .10 is worth using.

Sorry I haven't fixed this earlier, also noticed some light seams in shib1.bsp that are probably coming from 0.15.10. Fixing the code or reverting the relevant parts will be my priority for the next version! 

Here's my tree:
https://i.imgur.com/gUKZSGs.png

And here's my trees ingame:
https://i.imgur.com/loMnw1p.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aJ3HgCm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/s0evNdO.jpg

What's going on? 

 

let check if I can reproduce it 

I couldn't reproduce it. tried both 0.15.9 and 0.15.10's light. Mind uploading a sample to github? Hopefully this should be a quick bug fix. 

Emailed you a .map and .bsp/.lit

And yes, this is for the Christmas Jam :3c 

if you look just below your pic in the first link, there's a pretty badass fan art of Vader slaughtering Ewoks. 

Does _mirrorinside 1 not affect {fence textures? It's not working for me. Do I need both light and qbsp, I'm only using the qbsp from version 0.15.10 

It's not in 0.15.10, I posted a dev build link in though #910
Should work on fence textures 

Still didn't work. 

I had func_detail_fence, skip textured all sides except for 1, which had the AD vines.

Saw them from both sides. 

Would it be possible to have model->geo baking like q3's misc_model(static) 

I've played with that in the past, but I didn't understand QBSP as well so it didn't work very well. It's probably doable to bake in a model without converting it to brushes, but it would be illusionary only (doesn't stop bullets, no collision) so I'm not sure if it's worth the effort.

If you want collision (player / monster / bullets) qbsp needs brushes, so you can use obj2map or something to convert to .map first (turning triangles into tetrahedrons with obj2map will probably give you a bloated / inefficient bsp, though). 

Do I need to use func_detail_fence only? I've been using func_illusionary. 

no, I tested it with func_illusionary. I don't know why it's not working for you, check spelling? "_mirrorinside"
Build version should be "tyrutils-ericw-v0.15.10-12-gd86913a" 

No, not func_detail_fence only.

When I first tested I used func_illusionary and then thought, "Oh wait, he mentioned fence!" So my brain connected dots that weren't there :(

What didn't work for me was standard func_detail and func_detail_wall

hth's 

"but it would be illusionary only (doesn't stop bullets, no collision) so I'm not sure if it's worth the effort. "

Still worth it, imo. 

I think I figured out my shadow bug on my trees - it was the old "intersecting brush with func_illusionary" bug.

My trees have a little solid brush in the center as a "trunk", and making it into another func_illusionary seems to fix the issue.

Still, having a fix for that bug would be nice... 

Turns out it wasn't compiling with the ericw qbsp at all in either version. I usually just hit yes whenever JACK warns me that prt wasnt made since I know my test map isn't sealed.

Not sure what's up. The output says almost nothing to the compile dialogue. Just says the compile path and path to file which are correct and nothing else.

Do I need any sort of compile parameter to compile 220 map format? Already tried the usual admin privileges. 

Ya going back to tried and true txqbsp modified by mh and it compiled just fine.

? 

Does anyone else have trouble with using JACK, valve 220 format, and the tyrutil's qbsp? Light and vis work fine for me but not qbsp. Qbsp produces nothing and gives no output. Must be something wrong with my setup but not sure what. I'm not seeing anything obvious in the docs about compiling for 220 .MAP format. Sorry for the multiple posts but this is wierd and I really want to be able to use all the awesome features ericw has added.