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Film Thread.
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_all_threads.php

Anyway, discuss films...
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Robin Hood New One 
bahh...... worth watching once for free (lol...). Interesting engagement with the magna carta I guess. Ridley Scott needs to stop trying to make epics, especially with Russell Crowe. They're making fools of themselves, on the verge of becoming the next Burton/Depp.

Danny Huston as Richard was awesome, he's always awesome. "None shall pass" (lol monty python) was also awesome. Nice costumes, set designs, servicable plot, but overall a colossal waste of money. 
Rj 
it didnt rip off a movie per se (although Godzilla is the concept obviously), but some of its best set pieces were ripped off from other films IMHO. For example, the bit in the underground subway without lights while monsters come from the roof is straight from Aliens. 
Tronyn 
Gladiator was good :)

As was Kingdom of Heaven dir's cut (turns a shit movie into a great one). But havent seen Robin Hood. 
Donnie Darko 
I don't get it. 
 
http://www.themoviegoer.com/donnie_darko.htm

one of many sites i'd imagine 
Cropsey 
Documentary on a Staten Island urban legend which had some truth behind it - a supposed serial killer who abducted and murdered mentally handicapped girls in the 70s and 80s who lived in the . Pretty fucking creepy and definitely haunting. 4/5 to 4.5/5. 
Cropsey 
Documentary on a Staten Island urban legend which had some truth behind it - a supposed serial killer who abducted and murdered mentally handicapped girls in the 70s and 80s who lived in the . Pretty fucking creepy and definitely haunting. 4/5 to 4.5/5. 
Sorry For Dbl Post 
 
Dammit Zwiffle 
i couldn't get donnie darko out of my head last after searching for that link to post for you. i found myself looking up a bunch of other theories & explanations, which led on to reading shedloads of user reviews & getting lost amongst the official website until the early hours.. then i couldn't sleep for being plagued by thoughts of jet engines, wormholes & rabbit masks. so watched it again between about 4-6am. it was still awesome and i still can't get my head around all of it.. one of my favourite films ever.

just watched scott pilgrim too. for the first 10 mins i actually thought i was going to hate it; it didn't seem that funny, some of the acting was really false and the numerous little visual effects grated on me. but as it went on i started recognising those things more as quirks that came together to form a consistently bizarre & warped overall vibe, and by the later stages i was actually enjoying it. what it lacks in decent story & humour it makes up for with sheer weirdness & some pretty neat visuals 
 
Regarding Darko, I read the link about the time loop and everything, and then I sort of made a connection to The Lady in the Water (the Shyamalan movie)- which, unless I totally got it wrong, was about a made up myth that was actually real. The myth was totally weird and complete crap imo, and after watching it seemed like all the little quirks that made you go 'whoa that's weird how it totally fit!' were actually just made to fit a horrible plot so you would go 'whoa that's weird how it totally fit.' In other words, it was good at making it seem like it was a smart movie when really it wasn't.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't buy into the Manipulated Dead or the weird soul worm things in Donnie Darko - it seems like they were put there to make the movie seem mind bending when really it doesn't have legs to stand on. Time paradox movies are great and everything, but when you have to invent fantasy elements like that to get them to work then I think the whole thing is cheapened.

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If you compare to Fight Club all the elements relate back to the split personality and dementia/whatever, which makes a lot of sense in the whole. What Donnie Darko did, though, was come up with a ton of totally weird things to try to explain how the paradox could actually exist, which really just ended up relying on super natural poop (again, the manipulated dead talking to Darko in order to get him to do what he needed.) Had the movie not resorted to that, I think I would have enjoyed it much better.

Actually, the first time through I enjoyed it thoroughly, but my explanation was that it was just Donnie's death vision before he died or something along those lines (ie, none of it really happened.) 
Donnie Darko 
works best if you ignore the more "explanatory" director's cut IMHO.

On first viewing I took it as a twisted biblical take with Darko as the Jesus figure (cant remember all the details but he performs a miracle, wears a shroud, saves the world by sacrificing himself, exposes evil etc).

Once you get into the time travel stuff, which is apparently the "correct" interpretation according to Kelly, it gets messy and IMHO also loses mystery. 
 
The other guys

Quite funny and strange, I really liked it.


Scott Pilgrim

Very nice style to it (with some annoying bits), but ultimately fails because its storyline is so boring. I really liked it, but we still switched off about half way through the ex lovers just because we were all bored.


The man from Laramie

Missed the first half hour but it still seemed like an excellent movie.


Wall Street

Granted, I did some programming while watching this, but never got into the story because it just wasn't interesting, and it seemed quite predictable. The others started skipping sections after the first half of the movie. 
Man From Laramie Is Very Good 
not the best of the Mann/Stewart partnership but a fine film. 
 
watched Green Zone the other day and surprisingly enjoyed it a lot.
it's a rather grim thriller about a gi (great Matt Damon) never finding any wmds in the Iraq. that's all I knew and it was good that way. it has a lot of shakovision HD but ultimately I have to admit that it fit. quite thoughtprovoking for us. found out that my best friend did not know how hussein was murdered and damn, does that fit the movie well. as usual some stupid bits. ending is soso but feel good for me. I gave it 7/10. recommend it! 
I Thought It Was Ok 
shakey cam + night scenes annoyed me a lot. 
Triangle. 
Again inspired by you homos I got this out the other night, it was cool indeed. Went from a bit scary to a bit freaky to a bit thought-provoking. Interesting and intriguing.


One thing I don't quite get though....






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***SERIOUSLY DON'T READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T SEE IT***





Let's call the main character Jess1. Jess1 arrives on the ship and they are all hunted by Jess0. Jess1 "kills" Jess0 by pushing her over with the axe. Next Jess2 and party arrive. Jess1 resists the urge to wipe them out and tries to kill Jess2 to break the loop. Jess2 reacts to this, goes psycho and slaughters them in different ways to normal. Now....when Jess1 is trying to talk to / save Sally2, she looks over and sees Jess2 being properly axe-murdered by JessX.

Who is that JessX, where did she come from, and where did she go?




***END OF SPOILER*** 
Also... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rtqUy34Tjk anyone looking forward to this lol. 
 
Yeah Skyline looks alright. 
Shambler 
Looks like a mix in between "War of worlds" and "Independance Day"... but the special effects are amazing.. I'd be happy to watch this shit in 3D tbh :P 
 
Oh god, why did I even try Hot Tub Time Machine? Looking at the photos of the cast I was expecting exactly that style, but was hoping I would be wrong. Well, I wasn't. Stupid, pretentious, "fucking fuck ass dope shit fuck we are using grown-up words fuck". God, I hate these kind of movies. Fast-forwarded from 30 minutes onwards because it did not stop sucking.

I also watched Couples Retreat. Kinda fun, super hot swedish Malin Akerman, some good laughs, some awful acting and bad characterisation (ending is absolutely not believable), kinda racist (?! "haha, that funny fat black guy, he is fat and brought a girl that talk lik dat yo, haha"...). Still enjoyable. 
Shambler 
see my spolier post above. Does that help? 
Skyline 
1st comment in the youtube page sums it up pretty well "were's Will smith and Jeff Goldblum !!!"

Looks like fun though. Those alien ships remind me of the giant machine ships from the matrix. 
Nitin. 
Nope it doesn't, because....








*** SPOILER ***

A loop should only contain 2 Jess's, but at that particular point it contains 3, and no indication where JessX comes from...

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The purgatory theory is a good one though, and probably correct. Although what is she in purgatory for?? 
Spoilers 
shambler,

my post should cover why she is in purgatory. And I thought there were always 3 jess's in a loop. We start in the middle of one where another is watching her already (in the same way she does later). 
SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!! 
Oh yes I see that. Presupposing it's an infinite loop of course.

I'm pretty sure there are only 2 Jesses in a loop - the one on the ship who wiped out the previous jess, and the incoming one from the yacht. The latter kills the former and then another incoming one appears... 
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