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Film Thread.
I thought a trio of themed threads about other entertainment media might be good. If you're not interested, please just ignore the thread and pick some threads that interest you from here: http://celephais.net/board/view_al...

Anyway, discuss films...
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Heheh
^ do i sense irony there? :P

i preferred batman begins too, but that may have been down to the insane amount of hype behind TDK in comparison
Batman Sucks...
... I prefer Superman :P
Bah
superman is a dick
Hmm
lawl. But yeh, Superman is a pansy, seriously.
Hmm
Altho tbh, Spider Jerusalem would kick both their arses
Inception
it was good. not GREAT, but good. i enjoyed it and would love to watch it again but can't say i was totally blown away by it

the concept was intruiging and explored really well. it keeps you thinking without ever being too confusing or high-brow. some neat ideas and fascinating visuals.. and plenty to talk about when we left the cinema too

on the other hand, some of the action scenes felt a little too strung out, and the main character's sub-plot seemed to interfere a bit too much and wasn't all that satisfying. ellen page's character seemed to only exist to help explain to the audience what was happening (although i have to admit i was grateful for this in places)

definitely worth a watch, particularly if you like nolan's other stuff, but don't expect it to be teh bestest filum evar, although i would probably rank it as my favourite so far this year
Yeah
I generally agree - it is by far the most ambitious film I've ever seen in theatres, and it doesn't succeed 100%, but it is really awesome, the degree to which the concept is explored is impressive, and a lot of the action scenes were good. DiCaprio was good as the main character, I liked the stuff about his character though (SPOILER HINT ALERT) after seeing Shutter Island only a few months ago, it seemed almost too similar. Anyway, I enjoyed it a lot and I'm going to have to see it again. When Peter Jackson made Return of the King, the studios let him do whatever he want; he made "King Kong." Nolan's financial license from TDK seems to have been used for better purposes with this film.
Leo Seems To Specialize In Those Kinds Of Roles
he must really like em.

I loved the movie, but it is bound to be over-rated, and I've heard a couple people say it's 'the new matrix'.

I kind of agree in that I enjoyed the parts before everything started exploding more.

ps - king kong is kind of awesome.
Crap, I Need A New Tv Series To Watch.
Maybe you guys can help, as you've been very helpful in the past! =)

What I've seen recently

BSG
SG-U
The Wire
Treme
The pacific

Now I'm twiddling my thumbs trying to find something worth watching again, any suggestions?
Dazbler.
Don't have a TV but at bird's house recently have been watching Misfits and find it quite entertaining and a bit different, good dialogue too.
Daz
Deadwood and/or Carnivale is done I take it?

Otherwise, I love Mad Men (although it may not be your type of thing) and Breaking Bad is also excellent.
Hmm
Oz?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_(T...


(and yeh, I'd second the Deadwood/Carnivale too)
TV Shows
The only things I'm watching currently are True Blood and Justified, both of which are very good.
Yeah
Breaking Bad, True Blood, Justified, but also a new show called Persons Unknown
True Blood
I'm a little ambivalent towards this, the main character and her best friend are really grating on me. But some of the other stuff is good and its definitely watchable.
Agreed
but the brother is priceless and he alone makes it worthwhile
Totally Agree
his whole storyline is what is keeping me going in season 2 (3/4 of the way through).
Inception.
Great film, does exactly what it promises, although the mad curving city shit is negligible. Like TDK it's an action crime thriller dressed up as (sort of) sci-fi, and it does that very well. The action is pretty average but the concept and the set-ups and dicking around with dreams within dreams are all very cool, I particularly like the "timings" aspect.

TBH I think a film doesn't really do the idea justice and it could easily be longer and more indepth, particularly with the background to both the dream-tinkerers (what context do they exist in) and their targets.
Predators.
Sorry, I saw it. But at least you don't have to. A fine blend of cliches, vacuousness, contradictions and non-sequitors. The basic premise is fine, the characters are tolerable, but it's full of obvious errors and gaps. Not only obvious, but very obviously fixed to. Hour of brainstorming on the bog and I could have made it twice the film.
Inception
Really very good, yes. Nice to see a big budget film with a brain. Lots to say but don't want to give spoilers :-) Go see.
Inception
Yeah its a great one!

I kinda feel the same way as Mr Rj about it, its certainly the best film I've seen this year. The trailer is a tad misleading as I was expecting more of an action heavy approach but the film is more of a discovery thriller with action tacked on, its not any worse off for it, I was just expecting something slightly different.

[now possible small spoilers part]

I found the whole idea of architects fascinating, as I'm sure a lot of other level designers did, as they get to basicly do your job at the highest level possible :) Ellen Page's character could have dropped a few Ogre's in or some scrags and I would have bought that completely :)

Really interesting film!
i'm not actually sure i like it more than kick-ass :) hard to compare though...
Action Tacked On?
seemed to me like the whole last half is an action scene.
tacked right on at the end, see, right after the climax.
Inception
After Kick-Ass, Hot Tub Time Machine and Solomon Kane, it was brilliant. Best heist movie this year, definitely.
Zombieland (2010)

Pretty mediocre after the good beginning. Bill Murray was just stupid (might have been fun for USA people, but over here he is not well known). And the whole setup for the ending was dumb. Good feedback on hits. 5/10
What?
Over here, Bill Murray is not well known? You must have been born in the nineties.
No, the eighties. And if it was not for the internet I would still not know him.
Bill Who?
That was the low point of the film.
Bill Murray
Wasn't he the kid in the Lost in Space television series? :D
Bill Murray
Is a household name. He was the main guy in Ghostbusters for starters. Groundhog Day.....?

"Watched" Predators. Thought it was good.
"Good"
Is obviously even more subjective than I thought :(
Ricky
the gopher (groundhog) one is Caddyshack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg8...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv8...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt008048...
Metch
no he meant Groundhog Day, classic Bill Murray :

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt010704...
So he did 2 movies involving gophers! that knucklehead! :D
He's Also The Voice Of
Garfield!
his later roles are kind of weak though, but yeah, back then he was hilarious.
I just watched Payback and damn was it nice. Sure, some silly bits but overall it is Max Payne as a movie (ok, the other way around). The language was a bit hard to understand at times (spoken too muffled) and the soundtrack was sub-optimal, but I enjoyed like not many movies recently. Great cast too. I am surprised the previous posts here are so negative about it. I gave it 8/10 as I will definitely watch it again and recommend it further.

Pretty obvious how Max Payne was influenced by it, especially one song sounded very much like "Mona - The Professional" from MP2.
Payback
is one of my alltime favorites as well!
Even Though Bill Murray Isn't In It?

Up Yours

Necros
I actually think he's funnier now than before, but I guess I prefer the deadpan stuff.
Max Payne Film
...What

Some nice shots, but this was just baaaad. I was horrifically bored by the half way mark, and couldn't wait for it to end :/
Payback
is a fun ride. it's a shame phillip k. dick died before all his books/stories started to get made into movies :)
That's Paycheck.

Oops

LOL
classic
Hmm
Further recommendations for DaZ (and anyone else, but he was the one asking about good TV series);

Just started rewatching Generation Kill, realised forgot to mention it previously, same people as The Wire/Treme (a lot Wire actors, mostly s2 guys, altho some others). It was a one off mini-series about the Iraq War, following one of the elite units in the US army. Based on the memoirs of the irl Lt. in the unit, very, very good and definately worth watching. Always makes me both want to join the army and realise why it would be a terrible idea.


Also, if you haven't watched it, go watch the Sopranos, if nothing else for the fact that it was one of the shows that started the 'epic season long plot line' style of TV.
Hmm
Also, new Futurama, new Futurama, new Futurama, etc, spoooge
But New
Futurama isnt good is it? Is it better than the 2-3 movies they released a while ago, I thought they were terrible.
Hmm
Surprisingly amusing actually. I'm a fanboy tho, Futurama is frankly my ideal life.
Hmm
And yeh, definately better than the movies.
Hmm
Definitely. Definitely. Definitely.

Twice today dammit.
Agree Nitin
they were awful, it made me cry :(

Not seen the new season episodes yet, but friends say its good!

Thanks for the heads-up nonentity about Generation Kill, anything from those guys gets an auto-watch from me =)

I think it was Nitin who mentioned True Blood, its fecking awesome! I got through 2 seasons of it in as many weeks and am now just starting season 3. Seeing Anna Paquin get semi-naked in most episodes never hurts either, she's smokin.

As a heads-up, I watched the first episode of a new show on the BBC called "The Deep", it looks to be something like The Abyss in episodic form. This first episode is more of tease of what's coming later but held my interest nicely. Some fairly high production values also which never hurts, worth a punt!
GK
is in my next dvd order, looking forward to it.

I did mention True Blood but I was saying I didnt think it was that great, but definitely watchable. Sleepy mentioned Jason Stackhouse who is definitely the best reason for watching, everythign he does is hilarious.

Anyone seen John Adams, the HBO miniseries? Is it any good or just high production values with good actors but not much substance? And if you're not american, will you actually care?
More TV Shows
I have enjoyed Rescue Me, esp. the first three seasons are absolutely great, gritty and hilarious at the same time. It goes downhill after that, but I'll keep watching just for old times sake.
Dexter Obviously
despite the cop out endings to each of the first 3 seasons.

I also really like In Treatment even though that will only be for a select few people.

The one and only season of The Middleman is also quite entertaining.
Inception
just saw it tonight, definitely a great film but I do think the plotting was not quite upto the ambition and ideas. A few holes here and there stop it from being a classic but the sheer creativity and imagination on display is very welcome in the age of remakes and reboots.
Kick Ass
Great except for some just a bit too out of character/style bits (wrgcnpx, onmbbxn, fghcvq Onq Erchgngvba fbat, rivy thl'f fba raqvat). A lot of things were just touched, especially the romance was so weak it could have been left out without loss. 7/10 or something, good rewatch potential.
Hmm
The romance was some bullshit made up for the film. It wasn't in the comics. At least not in the same way...
You're Kidding Me...
I thought "oh well, I guess it came from the comic and they had to include it".

The soundtrack is great too. Apart from the Reputation track at least. For a Few Dollars More theme was a nice touch.
Hmm
Wasn't it mostly the new Prodigy album?
For A Few Dollars More Theme
is also in Fantastic Mr Fox, which is a nice little film by the way.
Kickass
Recently rewatched it after kinda liking it in the cinema... although I thought that the whole stereotypical teen comedy stuff should have been left out of the movie, because it just didn't add anything to it other than the occasional "funny" bit, it felt like a fun movie that occasionally was a blast to watch.

The rewatch totally made me think of it as a much worse movie. If you expect the surprising blow-you-away scenes, you basically just sit through all the other stuff to see them, and then those scenes themselves are less than impressing, because all the other stuff didn't leave enough impression to contrast them.
And Payback
if you're referring to the movie with mel gibson, it rocks.
Hmm
sounds like Payback is worth a watch. Which version are people on about? The recut newish dvd version or the original theatrical cut?

A quick look shows they are quite different.
Seems like I watched the original, but the DC seems quite interesting too. It also has a higher rating at imdb and people say it is even darker. Thanks for making me aware of it.
Salt (2010)

Highly recommended NOT to watch. It does not go anywhere, is boring, weird, super unrealistic and clichee and duuuuh. 3/3 watchers said "thanks god we did not pay for this". Some sequences could be watched as involuntarily Crank-like but they were rare and groaners nonetheless.
Sherlock Holmes (2009)
Draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag. Boring, weird mish-mash of classic things and idiotic special effects, annoying clichees/cliffhangers, I don't like Downey Jr, did not really like the music. Guy Ritchie lost his appeal to me (did not like RocknRolla already, love his older stuff though).
I Enjoyed It
but I went in thinking it would be disastrous.
Has Some Funny Moments
Like the part where he gets into the barenuckle boxing match.
Didnt Like That Bit
but some of it was much cleverer than I thought it would be.
That bit was the beginning of the dislike for me. :)

I too liked some bits, like when he had those explanation moments, but then those were chopped together so quickly and weird, and his voice is super hard to understand.
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
Another movie that showed me how US centric IMDB ratings really are. Music was rare and when, it was devastating (imagine watching an action scene with something like http://www.jamendo.com/track/63680... ). Beginning was so boring and then annoyingly "hollywood romantic" (with "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head" playing, yeah, that's the 1969 equivalent of The White Stripes opening a James Bond wannabe movie) I almost quit, but I saw nitin's review and gave it a try. Story was good in the middle, then they got to bolivia and it dragged along, not deciding to be funny or serious. Bah.

5/10

Funny tidbit: The part when they jumped into the water has been borrowed in Resident Evil 5 (or whatever generic PS3 game that was, maybe Uncharted?).
Thats A Classic IMHO
yes the music doesnt quite fit but otherwise, its a classic film in all respects.
The Expendables
Bad movie, or WORST movie? Discuss.
Bad movie. Not worst because it was totally to be expected especially considering the cast. While we're at it Iron Man 2 is extremely bad too.
HOBO With A SHOTGUN!
they're making a real movie out of this, and it starts Rutger Hauer:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Hob...

Speaking of which, still need to see Machete...
Yeah
havent seen it but how can it be worst when the expectations arent that high?

Iron Man 2 has a good first half, bad second half.
I Fully Intend To Watch The Expendables...
... on my next long haul flight, with the accompaniment of as much wine as I can sweet talk out of the cabin crew.
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