http://quake.wikia.com/ maybe? 

http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/Gran... 

haven't checked it out though. If its a genuinely bad layout and awkward to use people will prefer a better one.

The reasoning laid out sounds more like a personal fued. Which is fine, although the reasoning sounds a bit naive. 

why would you let a company make money off your work? 

 

But it's a fine line, and I haven't investigated the thing. 

Func is free!
Quaddicted is free!
Oh wait, you are all being sold!

Your mod will be free right?
All those hours.

If one cares, one invests time and money into providing something to others for free. 

And often you yourself get a benefit off it too. God, I hated having to use Fileplanet and other "login and wait 2 minutes" money-makers for map downloads...

Oh look, all the ad-supported hosted sites on Planetquake.com were deleted. Oops! Who tells you Wikia gives a fuck about your content if it is not profitable?

Disclaimer: I am one of those Archiveteam zealots. 

How about an approval process for discussion threads, just as there is for news threads? 

as well as getting rid of spam threads, it means we hopefully won't get any shitstorms like that fiend mod/cyst popping palava. Considering how strict the rules supposedly are for discussion threads, it seems odd that there is literally no restrictions on posting them. 

What kind of forum would that be...

The moderators simply need more power - an option to mark posts as spam and delete (or hide) threads. This shouldn't be hard to implement. 

What kind of forum would that be...

One without (X) Deleted threads! 

Moderated new threads with options to Publish / Reject into Thread X/y/z / Reject as spam, would seem sensible to me. It would mean a slight delay to threads but since they are supposed to be long term discussion threads I think that would be okay? 

Up the number of sticky threads to be a nice round 10? To have some more useful stickies so that people can get their questions answered more readily...

How about:

Modding/coding help.
Custom engine help.
Modelling help/screenshots/etc.

??? 

Potentially, it would reduce the incentive to create a discussion thread even more. The "slight" delay may easily be several hours, judging from how the approval of news threads works at the moment (either in the morning or the evening func-time, rarely in between).

The current amount of spam certainly doesn't justify such drastic measures, in my view. 

- coding help
- modelling help
- "other games"

Note: I still think the current separation of "other PC games" from "other console games" is retarded considering that most of the games talked about in the PC thread are just bloody console ports anyway. 

I think my first step will be adding moderator powers, without requiring approval (so threads are instantly live, but moderators can close them.) 

The most reasonable. 

 

Only reason I gave up moderation power was because I couldn't delete all of Shambler's threads and posts, so I agree. 

moderators have a couple of new powers now.

1. when editing a thread, you can change status between three choices: "normal", "closed", and "censored". Closed threads are still visible to the public but don't accept new posts. Censored threads are completely hidden (but not deleted from the database.)

Our policy should be to censor spam threads (i.e. spambots posting google bait) and to censor duplicate threads (e.g. user posted identical info into two threads by accident, or created both a news and a discission thread because they were uncertain.) If a thread is not spam or dupe, but just misguided (e.g. it should have been posted to mapping help,) then we should post a non-snarky explanation of why, and close it, so they (and others) can learn from their mistake. We shouldn't be deleting title/body of the thread when closing it, because that confuses people, since they won't know which thread it is anymore.

2. When viewing posts, there is now a tiny link next to the byline of each post that says "spam" -- if you click it it will flag it as spam, and then there will be a link that says "unflag" in case you made a mistake. These links us AJAX to update the page without reloading it, it has worked for me for several months but let me know if you find bugs with this feature.

Policy: only flag posts that are really spam, not just because they are annoying. 

Makes sense, will use carefully. 

or did you change the background color? 

no change to the background, must be something on your end 

reboot did the trick 

don't forget to change spam threads to "censored" instead of "closed" -- closed threads are still visible. 

will do it right from now on. 

 

ლ(ಠ&#30410... 

Was trying for this: http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/...

No support for Japanese (?) characters?

Mark the above posts as spam please ;) 

i don't really have a very good system for handling charsets... i think the server is set to Western European or something, the html don't include a charset, there's occasional bugs with weird characters breaking the RSS feed (em dash, copyright symbol, trademark symbol, zertstorer O with the umlaut on it. These don't seem to be causing much of a problem for us so I haven't really investigated what I would need to do to encode everything correctly. 

you are using htmlspecialcharacters after htmlentities I guess. 

Ban / auto-reject anything from linseo****blog 

It's really getting to be annoying. 

I think the time has come, because now they keep spamming the news threads (thus fucking up their order). 

unflagging ijed's spam posts because there's code that blocks any IP from posting that was once the source of a spam post... 

i'm working on a feature to flag spam accounts, which will help because the current wave of spam is all from registered users (all the linseoblog guys.) I have already flagged the accounts in the database, now i will need to add code to block a new post/thread if it is coming through a spam account. Should be comming soon. 

That will definitely help as 90% of it seems to be that linseobollox. 

News and discussion threads in the full lists are ordered by date of creation. Only the "last 10 threads" are affected by (spam) bumping. 

That's where it annoys me the most, since I never visit the full lists or news page. 

this should work 

accounts flagged as spam accounts are now blocked from creating posts/threads. This is only effective if the spammer is logged in and I have flagged the account. Lineseoblog accounts have all been flagged. Let's see what happens. 

xxx 

failed 

I just tried to replace my name by 'Lineseoblog'.. that does not work :P

sorry... 

failed ?? 

if not logged he can post: maybe the IP address could be alos flag as spammer... Can it work this way too ? 

IP flagging was already a feature. 

:) 

Allow "sort by last post" on the archive pages. 

How to save to pc these "angry" and "neutral" icons? every time i got an empty files clear.gif 

Icons are all tiled together into a single image, view source and you'll see it. 

i see,

not my way though 

metl, I'm assuming you wrote all the php for the board? 

yeah, it's all custom code i wrote back in 2002 (with some tweaks over the years.) 

 

Somehow I managed to post with unclosed html tags: http://celephais.net/board/view_th...

Not sure how, the last word is missing the </i> 

weird, i thought i fixed this bug for good last time... I'll look into it. 

 

 

 

 

Hitting refresh now causes a double post... 

Hitting refresh now causes a double post... 

 

whoa really? 

doesn't seem to do so on Firefox 

Chrome then.. 

Making a post that is. 

on firefox 19 

could you make the "All XXXX, Last 25, New XX" bit not get split up by text wrapping? 

test 

All the recent double posts make me wonder if some browser stopped warning on resending post data on a refresh.

Opera does not seem to resend at all which of course is desirable.

Let's see: 

durr 

I am a good browser, I prompt. 

derp 

I behave like Opera, not resending, not prompting. 

The conclusion is that people are using Internet Explorer 4.0

Weird. Make gamma rays or moon phases? 

As I stated before, Chrome. 

! 

! 

that was chrome, but it prompted first. don't know why i clicked yes 

metl, could you make an anchor in view_thread.php right after the top-most pagination before the first rendered post? And then point to that in "New X" links.

Would save at least 42 milliseconds of scrolling whenever one visits posts with long main posts. ;) 

Test 

Test in Chrome 

So Firefox (and every other browser once upon a time) lets you refresh without posting, Chrome offers to resubmit the form. I'm not sure why it offers that, since i use a redirect to help clear out the form data (so that people can refresh the page without worries.) Chrome is just too clever; I guess i'll need to find another way. 

It's amazing and sad how many people seem to click yes without thinking though. I hope they don't do that for java applets. 

Is to store a magic value in the session and in a hidden form field. On submit, the session value is removed. If the session value is missing, nothing gets posted. 

That is. 

Or manually kill the $POST vars after submission maybe.... ? 

It's amazing and sad how many people seem to click yes without thinking though. I hope they don't do that for java applets.
To be fair, that's what happens when too many things ask too many stupid questions. You condition people to click YES out of reflex. 

You may already have tried this, or already have this. But, try putting "exit;" after your header("Location: ") redirect. 

Can't post anywhere 

 

not sure why it can happen, but this means you loaded the page with one IP address, but when you submitted your post you had a different IP.

Maybe it happens on mobile phones more because they can change networks frequently? (edge <-> 3g <-> wifi) 

I understand. I'm at home where I'm in my wifi, but sometimes it switches to mobile broadband for some reason. Thanks! 

i can see how that might help, as my php still generates the entire page after you post.

I wonder if chrome is ignoring the redirect because it's the same URL? In that case i could use a second URL as the post target and then redirect back to view_thread.php. 

Seems it's a chrome bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium...

Will be fixed soon judging by my skim of that report. 

i'll just do nothing then :)

(though adding an "exit" to my php after the redirect still sounds like a good idea to save server resources) 

Although it's a bug and that it's being addressed, it's still too late.

Not many people will bother to upgrade their Chrome to latest version--we've seen that habit with IE users.

Simply adding several lines of javascript, and you'll be able to convert your "Post A Reply" < form > to use Ajax.

By looking at your HTML code, I can see that you are using javascript without any libraries such as mootools, jquery, etc. -- which is fine, you can still do ajax with plain javascript.

---

Just adjust your HTML slightly by adding an ID to the <td> that holds the "Post A Reply" form html.
Currently it is:
< td bgcolor="#333333" width="500" valign="top" >
< span class="header2">Post A Reply:</span >
...
< /td >

Change the < td > to have id="post-a-reply"
So, you then have < td bgcolor="#333333" width="500" valign="top" id="post-a-reply" >

Then, the javascript would be:

On submit:

var xmlhttp;
if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { // code for IE7+, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari
xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest();
}
else { // code for IE6, IE5
xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLH...
}
xmlhttp.onreadystatechange = function() {
if (xmlhttp.readyState==4 && xmlhttp.status==200) {
document.getElementById("post... = xmlhttp.responseText;
}
}
xmlhttp.open("POST",&quo...
xmlhttp.send();

---

Notice I added another parameter "&ajax=1" to the submit URL, and you can use that in PHP to spit out a specific response for the update to the < td >, rather spit the entire page as if there was no ajax.

Obviously the "id=2&start=1676" part is dynamic, of course. 

Hmm, that one line got garbled. It changed my quotation character to "&quo..." Let's try again:

xmlhttp.open("POST", "http://celephais.net/board/v... ,true);


Ahhh, whatever. 

Chrome updates automatically. 

Deqer, this is a veey change-averse group ;-) 

Still doesn't hurt to add some ajax to the site. Ajax has been available and supported for 10+ years now. Saves on resources, too.

It's 2013. Get with it. 

Please don't. Javascript is bloody annoying. 

Please don't, and it's not necessary at all. You can protect against double posts entirely on the server. 

Please don't. Javascript is bloody annoying.

uhm.. javascript is used already? 

I do have plans for ajax, in fact it's already used for the "flag spam" feature that moderators have. But this site is not my active project right now (aside from necessary maintenance.)And don't worry, I would only use it for enhancements that make sense for the design of the site. 

Yeah, better not let a stranger like me tell you how to improve your outdated website. Best you figure it out on your own. Maybe another 10 years, and you'll come around. 

if you are not listening to the many people who give you helpful advice, then why should they listen to you. 

He's gone critical! He's gonna blow!

I knew it wouldn't last. Awesome. 

Welcome to the OLD SKOOL!!! 

Thanks for the lesson in AJAX btw. Seriously. That looks like useful info for a cat like me (deadly serious), please re-post the truncated line again, just add a space after .celephais.net/board . 

ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLH...  

If you could use some fancy javascript/ajax/jibberty-jello magic to make it so Deqer's posts are ignored that would be great thanks :) 

Or just install vBulletin.

*ducks* 

 

A link to display all posts from within a thread. I know it can be done by clicking on the title, but it's not very transparent and, well, I keep forgetting. Would fit well with the current navigation: All | First | Previous | Next | Last. 

For the crown Kinn. 

test test 

test test 

repro on double posting in Firefox:

Write post.

Press Preview.

Hit submit rapidly on the preview page. 

@metlslime: how hard do you think it might be to make func an OpenID provider, so that we could use our func_msgboard accounts to log into other sites? Then people could use their func personas to post comments on my site (instead of creating a local login) or possibly quakewiki.org could hook into it as well? 

I don't know, I actually have never looked into it. 

ERROR: Error message number 42
when i tried to submit a post? 

Usually happens on smartphones when they switch from Wifi to Cellular or vice versa. 

ah ok, i was at work. :)
if it's caused by that, shouldn't the error just say that instead? error 42 is very cryptic. 

 

from Hitchhiker's Guide. 

Looks like the Lvl post broke the RSS feed. :D 

looks like the accented characters did it again:

* Under Water by T-kölök

I probably need to escape these chars or use the correct Character encoding in the xml or something. 

utf8_encode($foo);

Im my PHP CMS. 

http://www.celephais.net/board/vie...

Please unflag that post, I believe it banned my ip from posting (posting from anonymouse.org) 

I am assuming that is why I keep getting 'Error 71' every time I attempt to post, logged in or not, and why I CAN post from a proxy. 

Unflagged.

I can't remember for sure but i think if a registered account is associated with a flagged post, it blocks that account from posting. 

maybe it is IP-based. Can't remember and i don't have the source code in front of me right now. 

thanks 

I emailed you last night regarding this since I hadn't thought of anonymous proxy browsing to post, and hadn't thought that SOMEONEbler may have flagged one of my posts. So you can ignore that email (assuming the washington.edu email you have posted all over the site is still valid for you) 

That's all. 

 

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