 Holy Shitballs
Er.... OK you loose. Who's headshot anyway?
I BANISH THEE for one trivial but particularly annoying fail followed by one of epic proportions!
 Lol
#43 posted by Tronyn on 2008/08/22 16:37:59
well if Headshot did that (I hardly remember Qboard), it's a good thing Metlslime is much more tolerant :)
 This Thread Is Fun!
he also created the qboard, the first discussion board for quake mappers to hang out together and actually talk about the craft.
Definitely the first one that actually mattered... but not the first ;)
Headshot was also a great gentleman and he was a great inspiration to me (one of the main reasons I started mapping was his levels showed me that user maps could be not only as good as, but better than, the levels that shipped with the game).
I believe he didn't have any interest in a game industry job though, and created his own advertising company... SleepwalkR can probably tell you more. He still drops in from time to time, though very rarely.
 What
#45 posted by bal on 2008/08/22 16:40:17
The only entity more powerful than Headshot is Frib and Peej put together, or Shambler and Pauk arguing on IRC.
 Kona
Hi! :D
You need to use Aguire's tools - though you may want a copy of Q1Rad lying around in case you want to experiment with that too.
To use anything else is bordering on foolish, because there's so much added functionality and coolness provided by those tools that you'd be silly to ignore them.
As for editors, I'd recommend GtkRadiant 1.2 or 1.4, though it's a right royal pain to set up if you don't have good instructions. If you've used Worldcraft in the past then I guess the most sensible thing to do is get the most recent version of WC/Hammer than you can persuade to edit Q1 maps and go with that.
 Oh Yeah, And
What's with all the pissing and moaning? Someone created a discussion thread to promote... discussion? Unless I missed something, this is good, right?
If I can create completely fucking stupid threads and nobody even bats an eyelid, I don't see what's wrong with this thread.
I particularly don't like it when newcomers get slapped down for creating minor threads (not that that applies here), especially when as has been acknowledged many times, that's how most other forums work. And let's face it, it's not like they're interrupting the intense flurry of in-depth discussion by bumping off the "Frib is an asshat" thread.
 Headshot...
#48 posted by Shambler on 2008/08/22 17:01:29
Headshot was also a great gentleman and he was a great inspiration to me
But not a great inspiration for you being a great gentleman?? ;)
 Hmm
#49 posted by nonentity on 2008/08/22 17:06:21
Ofc not. Frib's a true lady.
 Shambler
Clearly not!
 Also Nonentity
#51 posted by Tronyn on 2008/08/22 17:12:45
although I do think the discussion in this thread has been unfair to you (even if I was quite amused by it), why would you be so surprised that a guy who started mapping for Quake 2-3 years ago wouldn't know who headshot is? Lunaran's response was much more helpful; how are people new to the community ever going to find out anything if it's just like OMG YOU DONT KNOW?!
anyway, not condemning you, I'm sure this thread has been enough of a nuisance to you
PS: untried texture combinations that would be cool:
Egyptian (of any type) + Kell
Daikatana E3 + Kell (fmb_bdg was doing this a little)
IKwhite + Heretic 2
 Fribbles
#52 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/08/22 17:14:59
Er.... I give up
How am I supposed to know stuff like that?
Who is allowed to start a thread because they have returned to mapping more - Kona or Headshot?
Well I have never heard of Headshot, but Kona I have. Go figure. Im not a l00tist n33b, or whatever it is you might say....
 Re: Also Nonentity
#53 posted by Zwiffle on 2008/08/22 20:38:04
I've actually tried Kell with a bunch of things, including egypt textures as well as idbase. The egypt project was going pretty well too I must say, I should look into finishing it/finding it on my HDD somewhere.
 Zwiffle
#54 posted by Tronyn on 2008/08/22 22:18:17
sounds like an orgy
if I ever started a new from scratch map, I was going to do a whole new map depicting a decrepit Middle Eastern city with ancient Egyptian tombs/ruins throughout - vaguely similar to the style of the "Arabian Nights," but much larger and more detailed, using Rogue/Hexen2/Sock Egypt textures, but with a huge amount of Kell textures, using Quoth2 - and call it "Nyarlathotep"
but I will never have time.
idbase+kell sounds bizarrely cool
 What Is "kell?"
#55 posted by metlslime on 2008/08/23 00:41:05
kell made like 10 texture sets, which one are you talking about?
 Thanks Fribbles :)
#56 posted by [Kona] on 2008/08/23 01:06:43
jebus so kell's done quoth1+2, contract revoked, and like 10 textures sets! i'd say he is quake's saviour of the 2000's.
 By "Kell" I Mean
#57 posted by Tronyn on 2008/08/23 01:11:37
knave.wad, kdmtex.wad, apocryphal.wad
basically the classic stone/metal/bookcases look
 [KONA]!
#58 posted by biff_debris. on 2008/08/23 03:16:08
Whao, long time buddy.
 And I Counter With A
BIFF!
 Ricky
How am I supposed to know stuff like that?
Because we helpfully tell you these things, after the requisite expression of disbelief.
Who is allowed to start a thread because they have returned to mapping more - Kona or Headshot?
Anyone can start a thread.
 But
#61 posted by ijed on 2008/08/23 04:37:42
The ritual stoning always take place, or only for posts as stupid as this one?
 Conglomerate
#62 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/08/23 05:05:21
with me
band finished
 Not Directed At Anyone In Particular, But Here's My Happy Opinion
#63 posted by Tronyn on 2008/08/23 05:12:59
X is leet enough to start a thread, Y is not - is retarded
I respect headshot as much as anyone, but as soon as it becomes subjective you lose your ability to condemn the guy for starting a thread
anyway, fuck the idea of the community being elitist at all. No one gets ANY KIND of status, or respect, or self esteem boost, that is unwarranted based on their current reasonability and activity in the community. You build up pyramids and stacks of self-reinforcing respect and worship and try to pass this shit along, you are nothing more than a self-contained group of self-esteem masturbators, no better than any man who knows how to masturbate. I will continually praise the maps of people who I think are great but I never give their name a royal goddamn deference.
you have an opinion you have to explain it to justify it. Otherwise, you've got no more say than some dumbass who showed up yesterday and thinks e1m1 is the best Q1 map ever made.
 Also:
#64 posted by RickyT33 on 2008/08/23 05:16:01
why would you be so surprised that a guy who started mapping for Quake 2-3 years ago wouldn't know who headshot is?
Tronyn
I'm sorry for quoting you but Deja-Vu came out 1 year Ago. And it took me six weeks to make. I have been mapping for one year. 27th Septmeber. Thats when it came out.
 Hah
#65 posted by Tronyn on 2008/08/23 06:30:12
well after so much time in Q1 I really have no idea what happened when; I don't mind, in fact what you are saying helps my argument; the fact is, if people like you did not show up every year or so and start contributing (if it has been only a year since you showed up! crazy to think!) then there would be no community.
#66 posted by [Kona] on 2008/08/23 10:59:45
well, i thought e1m1 was pretty cool :P
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