In a zombie Apocalyse - that's got to be a replacement skin. 

negke/Willem, you completely missed my point. I understood where you were coming from in the first place, that's there normal everyday clothing, but my point was this: How hard is it to take off a tie, take out your earrings, or button up your overalls in a safe room? How long will that take? 5 seconds? Nonentity got it right away...

DaZ - yeah, I just kind of said it initially as a joke but I guess people took it to be a real argument :) But hey, if it makes some discussion why not talk about it. 

"that's *not *their normal, everyday clothing..." I just woke up cut me some slack. 

I can't believe we're even talking about this to be honest. :) They're probably distracted with the whole, "there's 10,000 zombies trying to kill us" situation. Cheers! 

You're right that everybody probably would have take it off. But the point that, for example, Louis still wears his tie is to reinforce his role as a business man. This way it's more easily recognizable and supports the intented impression of 'four random characters from different ends of society' teaming up in an extreme sitation (people who don't have much in common and wouldn't have bothered with each other if it wasn't for the zombie killing thing). 

Well to steer this into a different direction, since everyone has made their points (and only mine were valid!) it would have been cool if Louis had a red pen in his shirt pocket that leaked, and someone telling him after a bloody fight that he has red on him.

Or maybe they did that, and I never noticed. 

In a zombie apocalypse, you might as well do it in style :P 

Yeh, I get why they styled the characters like they did negke, and tbh I think it works well. Without the tie louis wouldn't be nearly as well stylised.

I just think some of us may have read this book one too many times (note, also shave your hair ;) 

I've never read the Zombie Survival Guide but I want to. What I was referring to was just common sense. Hence, my use of the term, common sense.

I would like it if they had Coach wear riot gear like the zombies. He does say something to the effect of "Those zombies are wearin' armor! I WANT ARMOR!"

Coach is a smart man. 

Read it.

Now.

Also World War Z (which is arguably a better tale, altho less practically useful...) 

Yeah I read World War Z and still want to read Zombie Survival Guide, and I actually recommended WWZ to bler, and then he forgot I recommended it to him and he recommended it to me, kinda silly.

Also, I wish I could talk about WWZ further beyond the book, but I can't. But I want to. 

Yes. Don't read the Morningstar Virus thingy book though (different author), it's gash. 

You could make the argument that as clothes are central to our constructed self-identity. Monks, soldiers, and prison inmates wear uniforms to weaken the power of their past/civilian identity. In a zombie apocalypse you would probably want to keep your clothes as way to maintain a connection to the past life and identity, rather than give yourself up fully to a new life as a savage and a survivor. 

You might want to, but that would seem to me to be hardcore denial. I don't see how that could help you survive a zombie apocalypse.

Now personally, I was never one for style, I just kind of wear video game clothes and whatever makes me feel comfortable and warm. I could imagine a zombie apocalypse doing more psychological harm to someone like Pope, who seems to thrive on trendy merchandise.

I just see going more utilitarian in a life-or-death scenario as the better, more logical option, instead of something (to paraphrase metlslime's post in an asshole-ish way) similar to "Ooh this isn't happening this isn't happening this isn't happening I'm going to listen to some Depeche Mode" ...

Wait a minute, maybe that explains everything about Rochelle. She's just in major denial. 

I always thought it'd make sense for Louis to have his tie tied around his arm. He'd want to look after it but in a pocket it'd get lost. All the running around would mean he'd at least loosen it. 

"You might want to, but that would seem to me to be hardcore denial. I don't see how that could help you survive a zombie apocalypse."

Mmm, there is an argument to be made there along the lines of the mental game is as important as anything else. Holding onto your humanity in a world of undead monsters would mean a lot in terms of motivation and keeping yourself going. 

Yeah, I don't think taking out some earrings or taking off your tie counts as losing your humanity. 

Never having been in a zombie apocalypse, I can't say for sure. 

I thought you worked in a games studio? 

Brilliant, good discussion guys :) 

But the games yesterday were cool. First time I actually got through a finale on advanced. GG Biff, Preach and Pushplay (and ijed earlier). Always seems to be somewhat luck-based, dependend on where the items, especially ammo, spawn. At least as long as the necessary skills are still lacking.

Also played some L4D1 again. Could it be the score system is kind of strange? I got like some 2500 points as infected but only 100 or so as survivor - relation? 

Until my ISP disconnected me - happened 2-3 times in about half an hour.

The ping wasn't helping us cross that bloody bridge though. 

I dont get to play this game until 25th December - my fiance bought me it for �19.99 in a shop, but i got to wait for this one lol :D

But Im a good ally, i stay out of the obvious line of fire and use proper tactics etc - looking forwards to playing with some of you guys hopefully! 

Was on wifi and my stepsister was using the PC - my whole internet connection bottomed out; everyone in the house was disconnected. Wasn't a problem with others using the line either since my machine opens 6 connections, using them in tandem.

I'm on dual core and never saw the multicore bug, although my laptop isn't good enough to actually see the rain in Hard Rain and run with a decent FPS. Should give it another try though, since theres an overheat issue. 

Interesting L4D1 campaign, looks pretty

http://www.ihatemountains.com/screenshots.php