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Idea: Quake 2 SP Jam
hi guys, its my 1st time here, though i've bee lurking here for maps since ever.

Well, its pretty much this, there's a few people on /vr/, QC discord and such talking about this lately.

Over the years we saw both quake engines evolving and quakespasm map jams proving to be insane over the time, but what about Quake 2? the game itself saw its share, but nothing compared to what Q1 got, in fact the few good and forgotten examples of this are the Mission packs and the Unofficial Trio that is Zaero, Juggernaut and Unseen.

the idea is simple, do a simple map jam using any theme for Q2(mines, space stations and such), you're free to use any of the Mission packs or Q2(even the unofficial trio), everyone here rocks at Q1mapmaking, and seeing this knowledge being use in Q2 would be sick, the source port is of your choosing, Yamagi, kmquake2 and Quake2xp are pretty much the best ones atm and all 3 are compatible with each other.

what you guys think?, i love Q1 and i still play it til nowadays, but Q2 needs some love too!
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There are changes added in May by m-x-d waiting for testing and approval: https://github.com/ericwa/ericw-tools/pull/216

There was whole conversation about this. Can't find quote now...

So it's very close to have new light/rad tools for Q2. 
 
if this gets released, then a Q2UMP is a go.

also the hub idea is neat, hell is for heroes and the Citadel used this, and citadel uses Both mission packs and lazarus as resources.
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=494

+ The newest version of Q2XP now has a ingame light editor 
 
I keep wanting to say Q-Tump in my head when I see Q2UMP. Hope this don't "tump over". 
Q Trump 
 
Good Idea 
If this comes out it'll be the first custom Q2SP I ever play. 
 
I think S.H.U.M.P would be better than Q2UMP

Stroggy Hub Upstart Mapping Project 
Unoficial Trio 
i forgot to say that
Unofficial Trio of Mission packs is

-Zaero(Made by Team Evolve)
-Juggernaut(the full version is easy to find nowadays and it works flawlessly on modern ports)
-Unseen(though this one can be fully ignored since its a bad compilation of mods and even assets used illegally, also its incomplete) 
I Worked On Zaero 
I did the sound design for the whole MP and tons of testing for the LDs. :) 
@Pelinal 
I think the best unofficial mission pack that i played back in the day was Oblivion.
It came with the CDGAMER magazine, with his own music (12 tracks), 26 huge maps and 7 awesome new enemies... but it didn't have a proper end level :P

I just searched it on google and i found out that the game now has a real ending \o/

You can download it here:
http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/6642 
 
there is also the unofficial unofficial pack "Oblivion" 
 
oh shit, Tribal already said Oblivion :) 
 
+1 for going at this with erics tools provided they become available.

wouldnt mind poking at a different bestiary.

are there Q2 releases that include map sources? 
 
All my Q2DM maps have sources released 
 
#24 
Larks-a-lummy guvna! That looks like one of those perishin' realtime lighting engines and no mistake. Stone the crows, you ain't not never won't catch me with one of those blinkin' things, not 'arf! 
 
Barnes -- the author of Q2XP -- hangs around InsideQC occasionally. Great guy. And smart as hell. 
@Tribal 
quake 2 Xp is great, even if the Xpacs has no texture pack support at most, the results are still impressive, it feels like the X360 quake 2 port that came with Q4 years ago.

https://imgur.com/a/kHCnfc3

Though Yamagi is also impressive too since you can deactivate the texture filtering for monsters while keeping the OGL goodies, also its smooth. 
Stop 
Why can't you plebs just be happy with vanilla quake? It's as bad as dressing an old man up in high heels and a mini skirt. Have some respect! 
 
if someone here wants speak about this update on tasty forums, feel free to do it, they would love this idea.

in fac,t they have 2 good SP Units uploaded there.

Slight Mechanical Deconstruction
http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=21574.0

Citadel 3.0
http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=22763.0 
Quake2xp 1.26.8 Final Release 
Thanks For The Hint 
I just tried it and it looks really nice. It also tweaked the nightmare difficulty to have respawning monsters like in Doom. That's interesting. At first I wasn't sure if I liked it, but it brought a twist to the gameplay that I want to try out, especially since Quake II can get kind of easy once you get all the high-tier equipment. That addition will probably keep me constantly on the move.

And of course, there's always Yamagi Quake if you want a vanilla nightmare difficulty mode. 
@Esrael 
Yeah im going to think twice about doing Ground Zero on Nightmare.

in fact, this would be kinda interesting for a few maps, like strogg space stations with teleport hubs.

also it appears that Turic's Kmq2 weapons works on yamagi, but the texture is fubar because its another format 
Paul Steed's Commentaries About Quake 2 Models 
i'll leave this here if someone is interested when the time comes for the Q2 Mapping stuff

paul made this post back when he was doing Q3A
http://www.loonygames.com/content/1.6/totb/index3.php 
 
About Q2XP, i think the monster respawn in Nightmare difficulty can be disabled with the console command: g_monsterRespawn 0

it worked in the last version of the engine, so maybe it will work with this new version ;) 
 
Found this info on twitter:

Yamagi Quake II 7.21 has been released today!
Some notable changes:
* It can now load .ogg music tracks in the naming scheme GOG uses
* Weapons are rendered with their own FOV (r_gunfov)
* Some of the glitches in the software renderer have been fixed

https://www.yamagi.org/quake2/ 
Q2PRO 
Also you can download updated builds of Q2PRO from here...

http://skuller.net/q2pro/nightly/ 
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