News | Forum | People | FAQ | Links | Search | Register | Log in
Mark V - Release 1.00
http://quakeone.com/markv/

* Nehahra support -- better and deeper link
* Mirror support, "mirror_" textures. video
* Quaddicted install via console (i.e. "install travail")
* Full external texture support DP naming convention
* Enhanced dev tools texturepointer video inspector video
* IPv6 support, enhanced server capabilities
* Enhance co-operative play (excels at this!)
* Software renderer version (WinQuake)
* "Find" information command (ex. type "find sky")

Thanks to the beta testers! NightFright, fifth, spy, gunter, pulsar, johnny law, dwere, qmaster, mfx, icaro, kinn, adib, onetruepurple, railmccoy

And thanks to the other developers who actively provided advice or assistance: Spike (!), mh, ericw, metlslime and the sw guys: mankrip and qbism.

/Mac version is not current yet ...; Linux will happen sometime in 2017
First | Previous | Next | Last
Yo Baker 
Should I switch FTEQW or are you coming back to Mark V eventually? 
When Baker Says He Is On A Break 
Then he is on a break. It's not his first time off. There's still unfinished business before 2.0 and I am sure he'll get back to it. 
NightFright 
I'm aware of his time off. I was under the impression he worked on Mark V during the winter months. Fingers crossed. 
 
i've tried the hd textures, they work fine but skies remains the same. how do i enable hd skies? 
Great Cornholio 
you mean skyboxes? 
 
no standard skies, in the hd pack linked in this thread all textures work except for skies. 
 
AFAIK MarkV doesn't support replacement of the standard skies. 
#2567 
How is that true? Fourth line down in the original post states:

"* Full external texture support, DP naming convention"! 
Grrrr... 
ummm so yeah... I couldn't get it to load my custom sky1.tga(jpg) replacement. Odd that is. 
 
Skies in Quake are not regular textures. 
Big Maps Related Performance 
I'm having issues with fps on big maps like 1st and 3rd maps of "Unforgiven". FPS drops to 20 and there are delays in mouse work like i press "fire" button - it fires 2 seconds after and keeps firing when i unpressed the button. Tried to run these maps with default config and there is no change in the situation. Meantime DirectQ 1.9.2 runs these maps flawlesly (97-100 fps). Also checked different graphic setup. No result.

Windows XP Pro 32bit
Intel Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHZ
Nvidia GeForce 250 GTS 1024MB
RAM 3 GB 
Big Maps Related Performance #2 
Utilized Mark V v1.99 DirectX.

Even bigger problems with fps occur at Rubicon Rumbke Pack. Same mouse delays , fps down to 20-30 in some areas. 
External HD Skies 
External scrolling sky textures are usually comprised of two images, not one:

sky1_trans.tga (transparent overlay)
sky1_solid.tga (opaque underlay)

There are another two possible suffixes in some engines, but I don't remember the name. 
 
MarkV Direct3D is not the same as DirectQ, and you shouldn't expect the same performance.

To be specific: the reason DirectQ gets good performance is not Direct3D. It's batching, vertex buffers, multitexturing, shaders, etc, and this is all stuff that can be done in OpenGL too, if the engine author is willing to do so.

In the case of MarkV, Baker is not willing to do this. So in order to run in Direct3D, it needs to store out vertex data per frame, then try to mangle unoptimized OpenGL calls into something that works in Direct3D. You shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't always work well.

If you want an engine that has good performance in big maps by using the right kind of code, MarkV is not that engine. Use QuakeSpasm instead. 
 
Speaking of which, any chance QuakeSpasm will ever support Nehahra? 
Well 
Quakespasm is not in active development ATM. So there's that little issue. 
 
True, but FWIW folks shouldn't read that as "dead project". Updates were still landing in the codebase through the end of 2018. So nothing going at the moment, but Quakespasm development seems to come in spurts.

Dunno if those developers have ever commented on the likelihood of Nehahra support though. 
If You Keep Accusing 
Poor Baker of inefficient coding, he might never return, man. :P We need him! 
 
Someone said somewhere that Nehahra is too much of an oddball to support properly. Too bad for me, haven't played it yet and Mark V doesn't run well on my system. 
Water Brush Bug 
In mark_v.exe (not _winquake), if a water brush is not at least overlapped by at least one unit by a non-water brush on one face, it will not render as transparent unless you activate r_novis 1. With developer 1, it claims that the level is not vised. In mark_v_winquake.exe, it does see the vis information and properly renders the water. 
Nehahra With Mark V 
I've played through Nehahra recently with Mark V and had no personal issues at all, just specify -nehahra in the command line. The fog and pretty much all graphical features work, the cutscenes do not mess up the HUD afterwards unlike the original executable, the custom music will not play however, maybe it doesn't support xm files but the cool outro music on epilogue texts between chapters does play. 
Nehahra 
There's some funky things Nehahra does that technically work, but that it really shouldn't do. In other words, the kind of thing that normally comes back to bite you in the ass at some later date.

Two of the big ones will be that it uses a modified protocol but doesn't change the protocol version number, and that it relies on sending stuffcmd every frame for certain things rather than the built-in messaging or reading options from worldspawn. 
 
If you use winquake with vid_stretch 1 or 2, water in dopa has a bunch of lines through it.

https://imgur.com/a/8xyVixJ

To correct this you can set r_wateralpha to 1.

Figured I'd mention this in case it hasn't already been brought up. 
Water Vis 
is normal behaviour on those maps which support it (the original game doesn't as standard) 
 
Ahh I see. Shouldn't winquake default this cvar to 1 automatically though since it doesn't support transparency? 
Fw909 
The lines you are seeing are the transparency. It's exactly the same transparency method used in old games such as Sonic 1 for the Sega Genesis.

However, I agree that it doesn't look good in MarkV. A stippled pattern would look better, as implemented in old versions of Makaqu. 
 
Shouldn't winquake default this cvar to 1 automatically though since it doesn't support transparency?
Stock WinQuake doesn't support translucency, but several engine mods have added it, of which MarkV is one. 
7 posts not shown on this page because they were spam
First | Previous | Next | Last
Post A Reply:
Name:
Title:
Body:
message
question
exclamation
idea
flame
noflame
error
skull
beer
moon
pent
rocket
sheep
pacman
pig
cheese
worldcraft
gauntlet
crate
pitfall
pimp
smile
cool
sad
frown
oi
yay
tongue
evil
wink
neutral
q1
q2
q3
ut
hl
cs
doom
dkt
serious
cube
Website copyright © 2002-2019 John Fitzgibbons. All posts are copyright their respective authors.